Landmark Commission Minutes - 06/27/2017MINUTES
EAADMARK COMMISSION
June "L1, 1017
MEMBERS PRESER i:
Andy Lee, Chairperson
■ RlemMers
Harney Brock
A P&Z Liaison
micliela Derr
JoRn DicRin3un
Christy Graham
Jim Johnson
5taciz Hood
jacRie 1e5ow
t✓inay Ramir,
Michael Smith
■ Council Eiaiscn
Karn Uagne, Planning Aaministramr ■ City skaff
IOlatt Prouty, Planner II a
ABSENT:
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I. Call to Order; and Introauctionz
Lnairperbon Andy Lee called the meeting to ortlar at 11:55 p.,,,.
II. Keviuvv ak Apprval ut Minates from March zu, zu-i r
Chairperson Cee called Tor review and approval of minutes Ti -Orn Me April 15, 2017
Landmark Commission meting. Mrs. Christy Graham made a motion to appl—uve the
mi„ntes. Mr. Barney SrocR sucuri'aad the motion. 1 -he motion was taRen to a vute ana
passed unanimously.
Ill. Application t,—jr Design Review — 500 81" Street (J.A. Kemp wholesale Grocery
Store/Depot SynaM) — Kcyaest to replace doors, windows, a,nn;nga ani tenue. as
well as repair and repaint atauco ana trim.
Mr. Matt Prouty stated tRe property lai;ated at 50U V Street, J.A. Kemp vvnolesala
GrUce,y. was located in the Depot Sqaare National Ristoric District, and is boiR a
ausiu,.ated local landmark and a Recorded i exaa Flistori; Cand,,,ark (R -TRC). He stated
Me applicants, i yler ana Logan Carrol, were proposing a comprFie„sive list at repairs,
which Raa (seen sa6mittea to ana approved by the Texas Ristu►rical commission (i RC).
Re stated the applicaTita YVere proposing to replace the windows, Me uAiating avvi pings:
and the doors throughout Me 6aiiaing, as well a5 construct a new front entry gate, a rear
garage addition, and a loaaing docR with ars ADA ramp. The applicants were also
propu5ing to ru-pai, and repaint the stucco ana trim.
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Mr. Prouty stated THC had recommended that the new garage addition not he attnrhed
to the existing structure. He stated the existing awnings were not original to the building
and would he replaned with mere nWmDrinte nngunc awnings We etated the eYlSting
wjpdnwc were aloe I]nt orlQlnal to the huildiag, and that IHC. had approved the fiherglacc
replar-ement windows that were heing proposed,
Ms. Cindy Ramirez asked if all of the windows were going to be squared. Mr. Logan
rarrnl etated thmt the archer- %-a-uld r=Woin, but the wind_wc would he cgunrad. Unr
r..hricty rrnham etated it was oot n! Et of rharactar for the area to have QgUared wiodpwc
with an ip-filled arch, Ms. R;;Mire7 asked if the arched windnwc were going to hP
replaced, Mrs. Tyler Carrol stated they would not he changing out the front windows, but
would be scran_ing the Daint off of them, cleaning them un_, and replacing some of the
glace.
Mq. Ramirez asked if the hars rovering some of the windnw-, waft going to he more-
decorative
oredecorative that what was currently there. Mr. Carrol stated they would he replacing the
existing bars with something more decorative and that the replacements would be
Incertod hark into tha evicting papetratioac. Ura. rhriety r-raham etated it appaarad that
Tdr. hurl dope a thnrnugh review of the proposed rhapgPc and that the was avrrited tn_
see the improvements to the deteriorating strurturp.
Mrs. Christy Graham mario the motion t^ aDDrnu_ tha aDDliratinn ac Dreceoted. �Ar.
Ramey Rrnrk carnnded the motion. The cmm��Ice100 v^_tad no the m=tl^_D; M=tl^_D pace -'d
unanimouQly.
IV. Application for Design Review — 2908 10th Street (West Floral Heights) — Request
to demolish and replace addition.
Ur. matt Prouty etated the=DDliraGt ~alae reguactio9 tn_ demolish and replace an addition
to thB1r hni rce that wac pat part of the original ctrurture. The replacemea! hell]g prnpoced
would he a 9.r, ft. x 24 it. addition with exterior siding to matrh the existing, primary
structure. He stated the roof would also match what is existing.
Tho applicant. Ur. Uav Phippc, -t2 ted thara worm fnundatinn issues with thin mvicting
addition and the'clnpipg floor was raiiciog the additiou to pull away from the► plain hoilce.
Ms. rinds Rapoire7 asked what the size diffPrenre woi lid hp hetween_ the existing addition
and the new proposed addition. Mrs. Jan Phipps stated the size was approximately the
same, but that the new addition would be more souare than rectangular. She stated the
now addition w=uld not jut - it li1r= the mvicting adds}Inn, but would hoL enntinunue with thin
nrigioni Qtrunture.
Mrs. Michele Derr made the motion to approve the application as presented. Ms. Stacie
Flood seconded the motion. The commission voted on the motion; motion passed
unani=_uely.
V. Applir_atino for necego Review ISM Tlldeo StrpPt (West Floral heights)- Ppguest
to replace existing slate tile with Malarkey Windsor shingles.
Mr. Prouty stated the applicant was proposing to replace the damaged tile roof with
architectural grade, Malarkev Windsor shingles. He stated, despite the anDlicant's
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multiple attempts to patch the roof: the damage wa3 caaaing water to IeaR into the home.
Re stated the tile type on the existing roof i5 no longer manuracturea in the united states.
lobs. Michele Derr asked it the rplacument root would Be the Same color as what was
axi5ting. I he applicant, Mr. Adam DeRoyes, atatea the new root would Be black. Ms.
Ginay Ram;re& asRed it the existing roof was the original roor tram, the 1 9ZU`s. Mr.
DeHoyes stated it was the original root. Mb. Ramirez asked if Me new roor ,.cola have
any color variation. Mr. Del9uyea statea ther-uwould be some gray tones included in Me
bh;ngles, But far the most part the roor woala Be UlacR.
W. Jim Juhnaun a5REd the applicant if he had received an estimate un Movw mach it would
cost to replace tMe rur vvith a 5imila, material to the existing tile. He stated Mu d;a nut,
But knew that his neighbors dovvn the straet had and it had been in the range of $4u,5uu.
Mr. Johnson stated he had faced a similar dilemma wher-i porLiMabing his h-vrrie. Restated
the aAi5ting the had beery uninsurable, and to replace the tilu wvaz not of balance with the
value ur the Home. Re stated the landmark Commission Mad apprvea a composite
shingle roor replauernf nt for his Home.
Mb. Stacie Flood made the motion to approve the application as prsented. Mr. John
DicAinzon seconded the motion. The commissiun voted on the motion: motion passed
'unaan;rnuualy.
Chairperson lee recuaGa nim3e11` tram the next two items an the agenda and turned TMU
meeting over to Vice-Cnairperson unr6ty uraha,, i.
vl. Applluat;on for Debiyrr Review - 800 Ohio Avenue (zales 50;lainy) - Request to
aDar ana remudul ;nter;or, install tire sprinklers, sewer, and greaae traps.
Mr. Prouty stated ti=re applicant, Mrs. Amber Schacter, was proposing to continue
abatement of the builaing ana rmodeliny ut the interior to include the installation of fire
bprinRlers, sewer; and grease traps. RG ata!Ited the applicant would Be establishing a
Rituhen, baRuq, bar. and restaurant for private dining in the adjacent suites.
aya EinuVm, project a,cTlitect_ displayed the plans for the project and a„plainea there
would Be a patio apace, a yraB and go baReq, a bar and bistro named ” I Pie Karat"' in
recognition of the zales jewel) yy Storz, and a tine dining area called the "Morris Supper
GlaV after Morris Zales. He stated tMer wwoold Be aaeyaate rebtrom tacilities and the
whole Building would Be sprinkled in order to satisry any type -t occupancy goi, ig forward.
Re stated the building was currently being rigged for the necessary atil;tiea and easement
agreements Rad Been aiyeired with Casa Manana in order to install grease traps oft et
the shared alley.
Mb. Ramirez asked if the outdoor seating waa going to Be add, ebbed at another time. Mr.
Andy Cee stated that would be addressed at anotMur meeting. Mr. JaoRie CeBow asRed
Mow the awning ;ssae would Be addressed considering the Building Pias already received
nisturic dea;9nat;o, tmm the State. Mr. Cee stated any exterior cPlanges to ME Building,
incivaing awninya and duos, wuold 6e babmitted to the State as part of a new application.
Mr. Lebow, asked about rile railing surrounding the outdoor beating area and how the City
typically addressed the enclosure os an area in the puBlic right-ot-way. Par. John
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Dicleigenn evDlaln_ed that it wee allnwed ac long ac the ralllnCl w8c juet h^Ite'{ down and
not permaoeot hniterl down and an area hatween the railing and the mwDing wac loft npan.
He stated the awning would he free stnoding and in no way inrnrpornted into the fence.
Mr. Lee stated that, going forward, the applicant would he working out enrrOarhment
agreements with the City. We end acknowledged there would be 6 feet of sidewalk left
aspen around the parimater of the nutdnnr dining area.
Mr. I ee stated that, due to the► rhangp in occupancy, the applicant had -,pent nearly
$300,000.00 in order to bring the building into compliance with the 2095 Ruilding Code.
We stated that the Zales Building, like several other buildings in the downtown area, was
a hlctorinal huilding and, ac eVch, chnold ha allowed enure leniency in regard to the rnda.
He eYpreccRd a h0pe that the nnwotawp Stapring r:mmMittea wnuld ha ahle to cnWe L!p
with -,DMp rreative ways to provide relief to the strirt reguiremeots pInned no downtown
business owners.
Ur. Jirn Jnhncnn aekAd the I andmerk C nmmjcejnn'c 0pprr%V=l of thdc iDDllcatinn wrgild
hp rnotingent On THr..'c approval of the awninge. Ur. l ee pvplaioed that the awning--, ac
well as several other eXterior changes, were not included in the current appliratiao aDd
would be part of a separate application to the Landmark Commission.
Ur. Jackie I ahnw made the motion to apprnve the applientinn ac precasted. Ur. RmrQeV
Rrnrk cernoried the motion. The nommiccjnn voterl no the motion; mntino pacced
unanimously.
ull, niarumai__ n_d At -ting Ito_: nntermi=ntin_I: fhr Eligibility; National Register for
Wictnrjc Placa-, at J jOn 1 aWar knn"M ac Iha W.A Ereenr EorraitUre
[.oMpanylmackat Shrine Temple (FrpearIMacknt Building).
Mr. Prouty stated that Civerland Property Grnup (neG) was seeking designation to the
National Register for the property located at 9900 Lamar Street, for which the intended
use is housing. Mrs. Karen Gagne stated that it was UD to the Landmark Commission's
recpnncihility tn_ determine whathar the huilding is allglhle fm mnve fnnelard in the' WetiQQ=l
Pegicter omioatian prnecc. The rmm�7iccinn'Q daterMinatin_n, along with a latter fm
nrM
the Uayor, would they gas hefnre the THC hoard in RepteMher.
Mr. Andy Lee stated that OPG had hired a historic D_reservation consultant to n_ren_are the
hiefnry of tha huilding for pree=ntatinn to TIdC. dQ --fated thea hVlldid:g w_c de-iamed by
Vnelkar R nivno Architect-, anrd wac nrlglnallV hullt ac a fnrnitnre company We --toted
that 02G wanted to maiotajn the huilding and its hictOrin integrity, while adapting to the
new use. He stated they were proposing 30 housing units, with approximately 5,000
sguare feet of the Around floor to be used for retail.
Urc. bdirhale Derr ackad if the huilding could receive decdgnatioo to the �latl^_nal Ragictar
regardlpcc of whether it rpr.B1vac the I ow lnrnme Hnpcjng TnY Credit from TnLIC'.A in
July. Mrs. Gagne stated that the building could attain designation to the National Register
regardless of the determination by TDHCA, but could not move forward with the State
K ---rd of re1eiew until it had heel] addressed by the local Dreservation board.
bdre, ragne explained that the gualifyiog criteria fnr lyatinnal Rpgjetar decigoati!2n
iorluded guality Of cignifinnore in Amprinno hiGtory, architecture, engineering,
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archaeology and culture present in the site or stractare. as well as integrity of location,
design: setting; materials and worRmansMip. She atated VoelRer & Dixon were highly
regarded arcRitCLts in the State of Texas.
Mrs. Christy GraRam Mated that several hiAmical Buildings had been lost downtown dOZ;
to deteriaration, neglect, or Tire. SMI-_- stated that 5ne telt it was important to preserve this
Building due to its architectural character.
Ms. Stacie Mood made the motion to approve the application as presented. Mrs. Michcic
Derr seconded tMe motion. i he commi55icn voted on the motion; motion passed
ananimaasly.
All. Discasaiun and Action Item: Expansion of Depot Square Mationai Historic D;strict.
Mrs. Karen uagnOt stat. -d the State was very interested in expanding the Depot Syuare
Ristoric District; at least in regard to national designation; because it allows for more
designations to be considered Tor tax emit pray,am. She stated there were Several
options on how to expand the district, and several propertiea that ooald enjoy the
proruct;ona rut the National Register. She stated that one potential point ut aisC;135sion
would be Ploy to adaress deliyyn review it the district were to be expanaeo tMMOyh
National Register design¢ti%n.
M5. Stacie !-load stated that, based on aiscussiona at the Heritage Society. they would
liKe to ace an expa, rasion of the district into the alley Between Indiana and Scott Street_
and then down to i gt,, Struet. She stated then= were a lot of historic Buildings in that arca,
and there was a lot oT intereat in restoring them. She stated they would like to see tRu
district expanded in these areas un a local level 5acaube this would provide greater
protections.
t;RailNuraon Cee stated that the state and federal tax credits availaBle to neY,, Business
owners in tMeau areas vvas a yy,eat incentive tar historic designation. Mrs. MicMelu Derr
said she was concerned aBoat the Value Village building going up for sale with tRe
deteriorating structure located next dour to it. Mr. Prouty mentioned that the building in
question was an agenda item listed under new Baa;nuaa.
Mrs. uMriaty uraham stated that when considering expanding Depot 5,1care in the past,
the buu blocR UT Indiana had Been lauRea at as a possible area of expansion. SHE stated,
at that time, some oT Me Ba5inc33 ovv„e,s in the area were not interested in joining Me
district. She stated there were Builainya in this area that were worth saving; and asked if
it were possible to offer to include those Businesaua that veer interested in Becoming part
ut the district, while excluding those who were not. Mrs. ua-ynt 5tatad that it was written
into the ordinance that those Nropaity owners who chose to opt out oT tnu diat,ict could
ao so. Ms. Floud atataa that when those properffies that were not contriButing were auld,
they could Men ne BruoyMt in.
W. Flava stated it was important Iley looR into what areas were interested in being
included in order to gauge how far out the district could realistically Be expanded. Mr.
dim Junn5an a5hted what it would mean for property owners vvno did not want to
paRicipara in the district_ a„a what the benefits were to those wllo aia paRitiipate. IDIS.
Flood reiterated tnat Mi-,ze who cfiiase to opt vat; could do so. She explained tFlat tPii
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henefit to hUcinecs owners would ho the my credits that wnuld ha nu8ilnhle tn_ them as a
member of the historic distrirt.
Ur. PmUty etatad it m -Y he a matter of providing more education to people in regard to
what the taY creditG Cao d^_ for prnporty nwoarc np am iodiuidual level. Business owners
may he unfamiliar with how the tay credits cap hale them with tho r+netc _f rcctnriug and
renovating their properties. He explained that there was cnme flevihility OG the --testa and
local level in regard to design review and that it was understood that rertnio Compromises
Could he ==de and alternatives considered in order to insure that historir strurture►s were
maintaioQd.
Mrs. Christy Graham suggested moving over to the alley hetweem lodiaoa and Rentt
Street and expanding downward from 51' to 9 It' Street and sending letters to everyone io
that area += pee what who might be interested in participating. Ms. Flood recommended
also having a meet a=d greet with theca DrQDSrty owners and use the on_portunity to
explain the requirements and hanefItc that would coma with haing n port n_f the historic
district. Mrs, Gagne explained that hictoricai cigoificaoce would haves to he actnhlishad
for each of the properties included, and that there would have to he some level of interest
fr_m ouch of the=wners. She stated that there may be several revisions to what is
coocidered agprnpriate haced nn peg=tintin__c and determinations made by THC.
Mrs. Michele Derr asked what the requirement was for huy in from groDarty owner--, pore.
Gagne stated there were requirements, but explained that if a property owner was
=De=O-ed tn_ bei=g included it would not be pursued. Ms. Flood asked if there were henefits
to seeking oatinoal and Incnl design -ting. iMU1taueoUSlV. Mrs. Gagne stated the
reguiremeotc for locally rlecigunted properties WPM mora etreovnue than thnce for
nationally designated properties, which_ rnuld lead to some gUch-hack if t_heV were
pursued simultaneously.
r..hairperenn l as racnmmeladed Putti=g t_geth_r mans outlining the areas that everyone
hart cuggected, ac well as maps from erevinus meatioge regarding evoaudiog the district,
and holding a puhlir: meeting to get fPedhack from the property nwoem iocludpd in those
areas. Mrs. Graham recommended starting out that meeting by showing the video on
hietari- preservation that had been used previously.
W. Stacie Flood made the motioo tn_ aeernua pursuing a n=[)Ct r)ietrict expansion. Mrs.
Michele Derr seCanded the motion. The commiccino vntad nn the mntinn: l37_tin_I] DOcced
unanimously.
lY. nther RVejpacc:
a) Monthly report: napot Rguare diGtorie niatrir't, mat El_rnl WeightS Tet_ric
District, Morningside Historic_ r]istrir_t
Mrs. Michele Derr stated the mural had been planed at the 7ales huildiog and
Dreceuted at the Art & Soul Festival.
Mr, Jim Jnhocon stated ha had attended the VV=ct Einrol deiahts neighborhood
meeting where it was arranged to have a oeighhnrhond cleat-uD ill Drab=roti=n fnr
the proposed pocket park,
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6) lje-�;gn Review—Starr Autnvri,ud—M;nor Alterations/Repairs:
M,. Matt Peaty reported on the seven ataTt aatnorit-ed minor alterationsrrepoir:
- r � JU 7 � ST, wet - Rey/d a HVAC System - �,—yusvrr ve, csh, Ir,t:.
- 9500 Granr- MauVr,ryy Repair aria House Leveling -- mvwjtalaca Hvvuse Levelir,y
- 7314 Buchanan - C:atpott - ",,,,,� lssuea
- 7 808 t►icabeth -Replace Roof w,t17 Sat ►,e at 1lorte Cuchere - Rome Rx
- zt75 9m Street- ReNlace Flar poorvv,IPi Jane 0" 1-,uf►t Porch and Porte Uoenum
J. Mena4vv- Roor,rrg Co.
- 1705 Hayes - Reptavua Uultipawl;ar, Roof With Same - matau" Kpvt,,,g
- 7106 Brook - Reprace PIvAU Syste,,,-1-e,—yusorr Veresh, enc.
c) Articluz Fk Feriudicals: CCG Replacement winao„„ Review from Denver,
Colorado: lnriuidUvv Asseaament Evaluation Matri^; 11% MailaiNan - Spring 20-11
Cane Star Cegacy
A. lgavv Ba5iness:
a) 7-13 m7aianaiSeutio,l 706 Review - Mrs. Gauuia stated that Lode Enforcement
had the building at r73 Inaiana on their list for potential demolition. 6ecaase itis
considered a FlistoriL atractn,G, they babmitted the building to tMa State tar Section
Tub Review. Based on imormation received from Code EnTorcunlcnt, i RC
determined the building ineligi5l; Tor the I9at;onal Reyister. Chairperson Cam
e^pra3aaa a hope that the Downtown Stuaring Lvmmittee would put together a
maintenpncu i-zae that coma potentially clear tFi-W way for demolition of this
building.
5) Muxt Mtg. - Tuesaay, Rayast 11. at 71 pm
Xll. Adjourn:
Meeting adjourned at 7:45 pm
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Andy Ede, unairperbol I
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