Landmark Commission Minutes - 05/21/2024 LANDMARK COMMISSION
MINUTES
May 21, 2024
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Michele Derr • Member
Christy Graham ■Vice-Chair
Andy Lee ■ Member
Marcela Medellin •Chairperson
Janel Ponder Smith • Member
John Dickinson ■ Member
John Yates • Member
Monica Aguon, Assistant City Attorney is City Staff
Terry Floyd, Development Services Director ■ City Staff
Karen Montgomery-Gagne, Principal Planner/HPO • City Staff
ABSENT:
Joel Hartmangruber ■Member
Noros Martin • P&Z Liaison
Michael Smith • Council Liaison
GUESTS:
None
I. Call to Order, Introductions and Welcome
Chairperson Marcela Medellin called the meeting to order at 12:05 p.m. Ms. Medellin
had Commission members, staff and guests introduce themselves. Ms. Montgomery-
Gagne welcomed and introduced new member Mr. John Yates. Mr. Yates was
appointed by City Council May Ph to fill the Commission's vacant position as a
representative from the Museum of North Texas History.
II. Review & Approval of Minutes from: March 26t'', 2024
Chairperson Medellin called for review and approval of the March 26, 2024 Landmark
Commission meeting minutes. Ms. Michele Derr made a motion to approve the minutes
as presented, Ms. Janel Ponder Smith seconded the motion. Minutes were
unanimously approved 7-0.
Regular Agenda
III. Action Item: Design Review—2908 10th
New Design Review Case to Consider:
• Completion of Partially Constructed Metal/Wood Carport; No Building Permits
• Design Review Expired November 23, 2023
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Chairperson Medellin introduced the case. Staff directed Commission members to the
power point and highlighted the design review case history associated with this property.
Alterations began in 2021 with fence supports erected along 10th St property line prior
to any design review approval; owner worked to complete design process and
Commission authorized the fence/gate system. By mid-2022 metal framing and
concrete slab appeared void of design review, permits and inspections; owner given
various options to address illegal structure and pursued replat to combine 2908 and
2910 10th St allowing an option for an accessory structure on a formerly vacant
residential lot. A design review application for the illegal metal carport was reviewed by
the Commission in November 2022 at which time it was approved with a detailed set of
conditions, including material specifications such as wood trim covering metal
components, gable covered with wood lap siding, false window, exposed rafters, fascia
boards, etc. to replicate architectural character of historic residence and only metal
shingles or composition shingle roof no standing seam metal roof permitted. Design
review approval expired November 2023, owner had not requested an extension prior
to expiration. Stop work order issued March 4 as construction conducted void of any
building permit/inspections and outside window of design approval. Owner requested
extension but legally deemed beyond limits of ordinance provision therefore options of
either removing carport framework, roof decking and concrete slab or request a new
design review case. Staff explained the owner/applicant was not present to answer
questions due to a work conflict.
Commission members had numerous questions, specifically regarding amount of
exposed metal. Mr. Andy Lee commented there has to be a commitment to a design
adding that the façade should meet the Design Guidelines provisions which includes
appearance of elements visible from the street. The façade design and materials are
important in this case and it's also important to be consistent with how the Guidelines
are applied throughout the WFH Historic District. Ms. Ponder Smith had concerns with
the angle/scale of the design sketch as it appeared the roof would overhang the fence.
Staff referenced photos in the power point taken looking eastward toward the carport,
house and fence and the carport roof/overhang would not extend beyond the fence line.
There appeared to be about a 2-3ft gap between carport roof and the fence area; the
fence was setback at least 25ft from the property line as Design Guidelines require any
fence construction not documented as historic be placed behind the 25ft front building
setback. The fence was previously approved by the Commission in August 2021. Staff
noted the owner provided the same design drawing as the Commission considered and
then approved with a list of conditions in November 2022.
Ms. Ponder Smith had questions about the exposed metal beams not being covered
with wood as report indicates painted metal and would there be rafter tails covered in
wood as on the west and east facades of the historic house. Staff referred members to
their case packet and the sample design sketch/written explanation, owner was
attempting to add wood components to cover metal framework to reflect the
architectural design, form and materials on the historic residence. The roof support
beams on the 10th St façade were noted to be painted metal. Discussion continued with
questions about the design plan for the west and east facades as those were also visible
from the public right-of-way. After discussion there was group consensus the exposed
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metal beams along the roof line (west and east façade) should be covered with wood
trim (rafter tails) and not just painted metal. There was a legal point of order that there
was no standing motion at this time. Mr. John Dickinson stated, in his opinion, there
should be a new drawing provided with clear dimensions. Discussion continued
regarding items of concern with the existing metal framework. Legal requested a point
of order to clarify discussion based on understanding from the Commission's
discussion. Ms. Aguon, legal liaison, stated the Commission needs to: a) determine
what they believe are appropriate conditions for this case; b) require case return with a
new site plan, helpful to owner if they provided clear guidance; and c) if the items being
requested by the owner are not considered realistic, legal options available include
move to table or require owner return with revisions. Mr. Dickinson commented through
this process, owner should know the requirements and be able to furnish the
Commission with a new rendering. Ms. Ponder Smith requested a new site plan showing
the elevation for each visible side of the carport and not just the south façade (10th St
façade). Discussion among members regarding items they would like included with a
revised application. Mr. Lee commented on the Building Code elements and if a new
detailed rendering was provided to Landmarks it may save time in the future obtaining
a building permit. Staff indicated the application was part new/part old as the site plan
had not been revised since Landmark approval in 2022.
Ms. Graham inquired if the columns would be painted metal or covered with wood. Ms.
Ponder Smith stated all columns should be wrapped in wood. Chairperson Medellin
commented there should be no exposed metal; all visible components covered with
wood. There was a question from members if they could require a new drawing/site
plan. Staff responded the Commission can require an updated design plan noting
specific material. Ms. Graham clarified that all exposed metal on all facades should be
wrapped with wood. Ms. Derr concurred that a revised design drawing with
dimensions/materials needs to be provided for Commission review. Members inquired
about the deadline for June case materials; staff indicated May 31, but would be willing
to work with the owner through June 5. Chairperson Medellin stated she was
understanding the consensus was the owner would need to provide further clarification
that all exposed metal must be covered by wood to ensure design elements similar
form/material to the historic residence and provide new detailed drawings. A point of
legal order requested again whether the case was being tabled. Ms. Aguon stated the
Commission seemed to be moving toward requiring additional information to comply
with the order.
Ms. Derr introduced a motion that the design review application needs additional
information to be resubmitted with timely consideration for the following:
1. Drawings need to include more specifics including elevations, detailed dimensions
for the east, west, and south facades (10th St) as all are visible from the public ROW.
2. Detail/outline showing covering on exposed metal rafters, supports, specifically, wood
coverings to more closely match the historic residence.
3. Completed and submitted in time to be considered at the Landmark Commission's
June 25, 2024 meeting.
Chairperson Medellin called for any public comments; there were none. Ms. Ponder
Smith wanted full wood covering the metal components from roof to concrete slab not
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just what was visible above the fence line. Mr. Lee seconded the motion. Motion passed
unanimously 7-0. Staff indicated they would coordinate a meeting with the
owner/applicant.
IV. Other Business:
a) Monthly Report:
Depot Square Historic District: Ms. Derr briefed members about upcoming downtown
Depot activities. However, she noted since no longer at the downtown office it may be
beneficial having another person provide the monthly report. Ms. Graham indicated
she could provide updates and encouraged everyone to look at 615 7th St which was
previously considered by the Commission for design approval related to a
restoration/rehab project. Façade work is moving forward and Mr. Dickinson
explained he's working on the transom windows and rebuilding components of the
storefront.
West Floral Heights Historic District:
Ms. Ponder Smith provided updates on the historic plaque project noting they had
begun working with the Association Executive Committee and WFH HD Volunteer
Design Review Com. members for initial installation. She indicated with some
contentious illegal alterations recently it has resulted in some neighborhood issues
making it harder to demonstrate the value of having the plaques installed on all 208
homes in the district. Ms. Ponder Smith stated that once all the plaques are installed
there will be no excuse for realtors or prospective buyers to not know a property is
located within a designated historic district.
b) Updates: Staff referred members to updates in their meeting packets, highlighting
some of the historic preservation activities conducted during May, specifically the
`lunch & learn' on refurbishing historic markers at the Museum of North Texas followed
by volunteers getting hands-on experience working on a THC marker. In addition,
Wichita Co. Historical Corn. submitted a THC Marker nomination for the Memorial
Auditorium on May 1st. Staff highlighted some issues regarding 1611 Buchanan and
an unauthorized brick archway demolition; as of May 17, owner submitted a design
review application requesting to rebuild arch/abutment with salvaged bricks; case
pending consideration in June.
c) Resources/Webinars: National Trust— Preservation periodical (spring 2024)
d) Design Review— Staff Authorized:
- 1505 Buchanan (West Floral Heights HD) replace roof same materials
- 1717 Grant(West Floral Heights HD)—replace roof—same materials
- 129 Pembroke (NRHP District)- Informational purposes only electric service upgrade
- 111 Pembroke (NRHP District)- Informational purposes only foundation repair
- 135 Pembroke (NRHP District)- Informational purposes only house addition
V. Adjourn:
Next regularly scheduled meeting June 25, 2024 — 12 p.m.
Meeting adjourned at 1:02 p.m.
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Ms. Marcela Medellin, Chairperson Date