Landmark Commission Minutes - 01/21/2008L
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Ken Dowdy, Chairperson
Cindy Cotton
Stacie Flood
Ron Fox
Christy Graham
Jim Newsom
Marilyn Carper
Steve Wood
Karen Montgomery-Gagne
MINUTES
LANDMARK COMMISSION
January 21, 2008
CITY CLERK'S OFFICES
Date
By Time 10,0
Michael Archie, Applicant 1401 Buchanan
Brian Byrd Chagnon, Contractor (Golden Eagle Construction)
ABSENT:
Pat Sullivan
Dianne Thueson
4P ® Councilor Charles Elmore
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I. CALL TO ORDER, INTRODUCTIONS & SWEARING IN NEW MEMBERS
Chairperson Dowdy called the special Commission meeting to order at 3:35pm, after a quorum of
members was obtained.
II. ELECTION OF CHAIRPERSON & VICE CHAIRPERSON 2008
Chairperson Dowdy requested nominations to consider a chairperson and vice -
chairperson for 2008. Mr. Dowdy opened nominations by nominating Ms. Dianne
Thueson for chairperson. Mr. Newsom was in agreement and requested Ms. Thueson be
nominated by acclamation. Commission members were all in agreement and Ms.
Graham noted Ms. Thueson would be an ideal Chairperson with her experience in the
preservation field and time served on the Commission. Mr. Dowdy closed nominations for
chairperson.
In Ms. Thueson's absence, Mr. Dowdy continued to fulfill the role of Chairperson for the
January Commission meeting.
III. REVIEW & APPROVAL OF SEPTEMBER 2007 MEETING MINUTES
Mr. Dowdy called for review and approval of the September 20'h, 2007 meeting minutes. Ms.
Flood introduced a motion to approve the minutes as presented and Mr. Fox seconded the
motion. Motion passed unanimously.
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IV. REVIEW & APPROVAL OF OCTOBER 2007 MEETING MINUTES
Ask Mr. Dowdy called for review and approval of the October 11th, 2007 meeting minutes. Ms.
Graham introduced a motion to approve the minutes as presented and Mr. Fox seconded the
motion. Motion passed unanimously. Ms. Carper inquired if work had begun at 1409 Garfield.
Ms. Cotton responded that no work has been done to the house exterior and the neighborhood is
concerned the owner will not move forward with either painting or adding siding.
V. APPLICATION FOR DESIGN REVIEW REGARDING SIDING — 1401 BUCHANAN
Chairperson Dowdy requested staff update the Commission regarding 1401 Buchanan. Planning
staff provided additional information and photos of the house at 1401 Buchanan that were not
included with the meeting packets. Ms. Gagne explained the house was currently covered with
asbestos shingle siding and constructed in 1923. The applicant requested to cover the house
with vinyl siding because of health concerns associated with asbestos on the exterior. Initially the
contractors applied for a roofing and siding permit — staff reviewed the roofing request and
granted an administrative review based on the work being replacement and ordinary repair.
However, the contractors were informed no permit could be issued to install vinyl siding until it
was authorized via Design Review by the Landmark Commission. Staff noted when the City
contacted the applicant (Mr. Archie); the contractors already required a down payment of $4,000
for the vinyl siding project without mentioning any information to Mr. Archie that the project was
dependent on obtaining authorization from the Landmark Commission before a building permit
could even be issued. Mr. Archie indicated his concern about being refunded by the contracting
company considering he had changed his mind and would be keeping the asbestos siding.
Mr. Dowdy requested the applicant clarify his intentions and Mr. Archie indicated he was removing
his request for vinyl siding. Mr. Dowdy called for design suggestions from the Commission
members. Mr. Fox commented if renovation work was being completed, the front columns were
x too small and spindly to be original to the house and should be replaced with wider columns to
match the original porch design and wooden scroll work. Ms. Carper inquired if the porch was
ever enclosed? Mr. Archie replied the porch was not enclosed but a picture window (plate glass)
was previously installed in the front facade. Mr. Newsom reiterated the Commission does not
review color schemes but noted 1401 Buchanan would be a good candidate for a tri -color paint
scheme with the detailed trim along the gable and eaves. He suggested the applicant review
2905 9th Street as a good example of recently completed tri -color paint scheme on a similar styled
house.
Ms. Cotton commented the asbestos shingle paint very well and Mr. Newsom outlined
replacement shingles can still be purchased at Shamburger Building Company. Ms. Cotton said it
appeared Golden Eagle Construction did a good job with the replacement roof. Commission
members were concerned with the up -front charges by the contracting company for vinyl siding
and discussed the situation with Mr. Archie. Commission members recommended the applicant
(Mr. Archie) paint the trim and house. Mr. Archie thanked the Commission for their suggestions
and direction. Mr. Chagnon, contracting company representative did not comment.
Commission members and staff discussed issues relating to the design review application.
Concerns were raised about the lack of information received by new /prospective property owners
in the West Floral Heights Historic District that is not being provided by realtors or at closing by
the title companies. Mr. Dowdy suggested when property ownership changes it would be ideal if
a handout or information could be given outlining the design review process, when it's required
and what doesn't need prior approval. Mr. Newsom commented there should be a notification
and the title company's show at the point of sale the property is situated within a designated
historic district or is an individual landmark. He indicated he'd contact some of the title companies
to discuss the issue. Staff explained they were in the process of preparing a mailing to the West
Floral Heights Historic District and a similar letter could also be developed and mailing to the title
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companies in Wichita Falls. Ms. Cotton outlined the Neighborhood Association includes
information in the monthly newsletters and in welcome packets distributed to new residents
explaining any exterior alterations, other than maintenance, require approval via design review.
is She indicated the information is getting to people but they don't necessarily read it and
understand the impact. Ms. Cotton believed it's critical to get the basic information in the hands of
realtors because people are purchasing homes the historic district without any knowledge of its
designation. Ms. Gagne stated this would be addressed in more detail under Agenda item VII.
VI. KELL HOUSE MUSEUM — FENCE REPLACEMENT
Mr. Dowdy requested staff provide an overview. Ms. Gagne referred members to their meeting
packet photos which illustrate the rear, perimeter fence deterioration along with earlier photos of
the Kell House grounds /fencing circa early 1900's and 1940's. Ms. Flood, Kell House Museum
curator, provided additional explanation regarding the need to replace the fence because of
security issues associated within entering the alley to put trash in the dumpster and staff is unable
to see activity on the alley side of the fence. The existing fence was constructed in the 1980's.
The proposed fence will be situated in the same location but will be anchored to a concrete footer
to prevent rot and have a lattice style gate to allow visibility when entering the alley. Ms. Flood
noted the fence will be 6ft in height and be painted white. Mr. Fox questioned if the 1940's photo
had a lattice fence. Ms. Flood responded the lattice photo was an example of what the Kell
House staff would prefer as a replacement gate but the 1940's also appears to have a lattice or
woven fence. Commission members questioned if the steel fence posts were on the alley or yard
side of the fence? Ms. Flood stated the existing fence posts are on the inside and they plan to
keep the new fence that way so it maintains a clean look to the public along the alley. Mr.
Newsom commented about the use of vinyl fencing and cost considerations. Ms. Carper
commented the vinyl material tends to shatter in cold weather. Ms. Flood commented the price
quote was based on wood slats and then having it pieced together. The project, if approved, will
be bid to obtain the best price. Ms. Cotton inquired if the lattice fence would be replaced with the
same style and Ms. Flood responded the fence would be a solid wooden privacy fence with a
lattice gate. Commission members questioned the details of the fence base & top. Ms. Flood
noted the base will be concrete and a top rail installed to extend the life of the fence. Mr. Fox
commented that it was bothersome having galvanized fence posts visible on a historic property
and asked other Commission members if they knew of an alternate method to conceal the posts.
Members discussed various options of having the fence posts exposed vs. facing the public right -
of -way. Mr. Wood questioned how the 91h Street fence was designed and if the posts were on the
exterior. Ms. Flood stated she had concerns with the added cost of having to mask the metal
posts. Mr. Fox stated the posts definitely had to be galvanized not wooden.
Ms. Carper inquired if the fence posts were visible when looking out from the Museum windows
into the courtyard? Ms. Flood noted the existing fence had wooden fence posts on the inside but
shrubbery and landscaping hides much of the fence. Both Mr. Fox and Mr. Wood stated from an
architectural and aesthetic perspective the fence posts on the 9th Street segment should be on the
outside. Ms. Flood noted there is landscaping on both sides of the 9th Street fence. Commission
members debated the location of the fence posts and concern with extra cost to conceal posts
placed on the exterior of the fence. Mr. Dowdy questioned the length of fence along 9th Street —
Ms. Flood stated perhaps 50ft from the driveway to the alley.
After significant discussion, Mr. Fox introduced a motion to approve the perimeter fence
replacement as outlined in the application with the proviso that the steel posts on the alley fence
segment be on the alley side of the fence and the posts on the 91h Street section be located on the
property side of the fence. There was discussion among Commission members whether the
shrubs would hide the posts. Ms. Flood indicated the shrubs were approximately 4 -5ft in height
and would hide the majority of the fence. The original motion was amended by Mr. Newsom to
include the provision that additional fence boards shall be installed to cover the galvanized steel
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posts on the interior portion of the 9'h Street fence segment. The motion was seconded and all
members except for Ms. Flood voted in favor. Ms. Flood abstained from voting due to a conflict of
interest as museum curator.
VII. ANNUAL MAILING —WEST FLORAL HEIGHTS HISTORIC DISTRICT
Planning staff referred Commission members to the draft letter included with the meeting packets
for their review & discussion. Ms. Gagne explained the West Floral Heights Historic District was
designated 3 -years ago by City Council and since that time there have been numerous
situations /requests for design review where property owners appeared completely unaware of the
basic restrictions for altering the exterior of their homes /out buildings. In conjunction, there are
many new property owners in the neighborhood that were not living there at the time of
designation. The letter will be mailed to all designated property owners within the District and
provide a basic overview of the design review process. Planning staff commented at district
designation there were 16 property owners that followed the process for exemption but two of
those properties (1403 Hayes and 1510 Grant) have subsequently transferred ownership and
revert to being in the Historic District. Ms. Graham asked if those two property owners know they
are within the District. Mr. Newsom stated the realtors should have informed them prior to closing
for full disclosure based on the requirements outlined by the Area Board of Realtors Association.
Mr. Dowdy questioned if the neighborhood Commission liaison is listed there should also be a
contact phone noted in the letter. Commission members were in agreement and Ms. Carper
indicated her name /phone number could be added in the letter as a secondary contact person.
Commission members began discussing wording changes for the third paragraph. Mr. Fox stated
the letter should explain the process for design review, ordinance requirements and when the
liaison should be contacted. Ms. Graham commented the first process involves contacting the
neighborhood liaison and then secondly filling out the design review application. After discussion,
Mr. Fox recommended the letter include wording that it's highly recommended to first contact the
West Floral Heights Historic District liaison for guidance in completing the design review
application. All Commission members were in support of Mr. Fox's recommendation. Ms. Cotton,
District liaison commented that in many cases issues arise at the building permit stage when a
contractor is trying to pull a permit and the property owner for whatever reason are not familiar or
not aware that a design review is required. Recommendations came forward from Commission
that a design review training should be provided to the Board of Realtors to explain what is
required for homes situated in designated historic districts so prospective buyers know they are
purchasing in a unique district. Mr. Newsom stated the MLS data sheets that are filled in at time
of property closing has numerous check -off categories and "Property is situated within a City
Designated Historic District" (yes or no) could be added to the form. Mr. Newsom stated he'd
suggest this at the next Board of Realtors committee meeting. Mr. Fox stated this project needed
to move forward and Commission members agreed. Ms. Gagne indicated the draft letter would
be revised to reflect the Commission's revisions and emailed for final review and clarification prior
to mailing. A letter will also be drafted for each of the Title companies in Wichita Falls.
VIII. OTHER BUSINESS
a Annual CLG Report — TX Historical Commission
Planning staff provided copies of the 2007 Certified Local Government report to Commission
members which outlines all activities relating to historic preservation (e.g. projects
undertaken, document revisions, meetings, number of properties designated, number of
properties for design review, training for the Commission, etc.) conducted over the past
calendar year for the Texas Historical Commission review. Ms. Gagne noted the
Commission had a busy year and were very successful in completing the preservation
documentary "Wichita Falls — The Future of Our Past" with production expertise from Barry
Levy with the City's Public Information Department. Members discussed the report and staff
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explained the documentary project to new Commission members. Staff noted a copy of the
DVD will be provided to each recently appointed Commission member for their information.
40 Ms. Gagne informed Commission members the preservation documentary was submitted for
consideration in the Texas Historical Commission's Preservation Awards in the Excellence
in Media category. Successful entries will be announced at the annual conference set for
May in Corpus Christi.
b Accessibility Report Kell House Museum
Planning staff provided an explanation regarding the Voltz & Associates Accessibility Report
for the Frank Kell Home that was previously submitted to the Commission during fall 2007.
A secondary report was sent to the Planning Division along with a request for an
administrative review for an accessibility ramp at the Frank Kell House Museum.
Commission members discussed the report and the additional request for a staff
determination. Ms. Gagne indicated staff had not responded to Ms. Tere O'Connell's
request from Voltz & Associates until it could be discussed at a Landmark Commission
meeting. The Commission members were in agreement that the issue was addressed at
their September 20, 2007 meeting and directed staff to respond and include a copy of the
Certificate of Appropriateness issued to the Kell House Museum staff.
c TX Historical Commission — CLG Seminar Update
Planning staff updated members about a recent training seminar conducted by the Texas
Historical Commission in Austin, January 16th -17th. Ms. Gagne participated in the second
day of training which focused on ways to maintain a strong local preservation program within
our communities. Guest speakers discussed design guidelines, best practices, legal issues
pertaining to the preservation ordinance with expert attorney Chris Bowers (City of Dallas)
followed by question & answer sessions to share success stories from around the State.
d Progress Report - West Floral Heights District Update — Ms. Cotton indicated there's a
lot of activity within the District and they are directing people to City staff for design review
when necessary. Ms. Cotton stated the Neighborhood Design Review Committee will have
regular meetings on a quarterly basis and they will be held the same week as the regular
Neighborhood Association meetings. She added there are Design Review Committee
members that represent almost every street in the District but at times it is still difficult to get
the information to the right people prior to them starting a project that triggers the design
review process.
e Other Business —
i) 801 Burnett — First Baptist Church
Ms. Graham requested discussion regarding 801 Burnett, the former Women's Y (The
Place) that was recently purchased by First Baptist Church and potential to have the
building recognized as a City landmark. Commission members discussed the potential
for submitting an application to consider designation because any potential demolition
can be delayed for historically designated structures. Mr. Dowdy questioned if the
Commission should begin the process of preparing an application for 801 Burnett. Ms.
Graham suggested working with the Museum of North Texas History, the Wichita County
Heritage Society and Downtown Wichita Falls Development Inc. Mr. Fox questioned if
anyone knew First Baptist's long -term intentions for the building? Ms. Graham stated
the intent for the site is to tear down the building and develop a parking lot. Ms. Cotton
commented that it was her understanding as member of the First Baptist church the lot
would be developed for a new children's building. Ms. Graham was very concerned
about the continued loss of historic buildings in our downtown and in the original
# townsite — she noted a photo in their office and at least 35 buildings are now gone from
when the photo was originally taken along with 27 facades completely altered. The
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Commission discussed the best approach to discuss trying to save the building with the
new owners (First Baptist Church). It was determined the Commission should work with
Ms. Cotton, as both a Commission member and member of First Baptist to set up a
meeting with the Church's Planning Committee. Ms. Graham reiterated that these
situations will continue to happen in our downtown unless the community and public
know what is happening and get involved to reuse buildings rather than tear down &
build new structures that lack any character or historic value.
(ii) Both Mr. Fox and Mr. Dowdy raised questions regarding the carport design review case
in September 2007 regarding email communication among Commission members and
what may be classified as `exparte' communication. Mr. Dowdy commented, from his
understanding of `exparte communication, it was acceptable to inform the entire
Commission via email regarding information related to a project or application but
caution must be exercised. Any recommendations must be discussed among
Commission members at a public meeting and discussed in front of the applicant.
Commission members discussed this particular situation and were in agreement
regarding clear communications and caution for use of email as a method of
communication between members.
IX. ADJOURN
The Commission adjourned the meeting at 5:40 pm.
Ken Dowdy, Acting Chairperson for
Dianne Thueson
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