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LANDMARK COMMISSION
February 21, 2002
CITY CLERK'S OFFICE
Date
By P)(-- Time 31-50
PRESENT:
Andi Holland, Chairperson ■ Members
Jan Schaaf, Vice - Chairperson ■
Ken Birck ■
Loraine Blackwood ■
Michael Collins ■
Jim Newsom ■
Steve Seese ■ City Staff
Karen Montgomery -Gagne ■
GUESTS:
Shirley Craft, Executive Director, VISIONS
Robin Anderson, Southland property owner
Judith McGinnis, Southland Neighborhood Association
Dawn Murer, Southland Neighborhood Association
Cindy Saillant, Southland property owner
Ken Dowdy ■
Doug James ■
Mike Koen ■
Arthur Bea Williams ■ Council Liaison
I. CALL TO ORDER
Ms. Holland called the meeting to order at 3:05 p.m.
II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The Chairperson asked if there were any changes to the January 17th meeting minutes. There
being no changes, Mr. Birck introduced a motion to accept the minutes and Ms. Blackwood
seconded. Motion passed unanimously — no discussion.
III. DISCUSSION OF LANDMARK COMMISSION MEMBERSHIP — HISTORIC
PRESERVATION ORD. ARTICLE II — SECTION 62 -36
The Chairperson referred members to the excerpt from the Historic Preservation Ordinance,
which outlines the creation, composition, qualifications and compensation for Landmark
Commission members. Ms. Holland brought forth an idea for potential consideration regarding
representation on the Commission from the downtown association — VISIONS executive director.
She added that VISIONS key focus on downtown revitalization efforts along with its promotion
also includes the Depot Square Historic District. Mr. Newsom recalled discussions of
Commission composition, etc. when the Ordinance was researched and updated during 2000. He
stated that the number of `member -at- large' positions (4) was discussed and tentatively, as
additional historic districts are designated by Council, this number of would be reduced
accordingly.
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Ms. Holland stated that generally the City prefers to maintain an odd number of members on
Boards and Commissions to avoid a tie vote /recommendation. Mr. Seese commented that the
Commission members might choose to consider recommending a maximum number of members,
ie. such as, `no more than twelve members.' Members discussed numerous ways to address the
total membership numbers and recommended to amend both Section 62 -36 (a) and (b) with the
general wording outlined below:
Section 62 -36
(a) "There is created a landmark commission , of which members
shall be a city resident, appointed by the city council."
(b) "Landmark Commission members shall be as follows: of the .,;„o memhem, one (1) shall be a
licensed real estate broker or appraiser, one (1) shall be a member of the planning and zoning
commission, one (1) shall be a member of the Wichita County Heritage Society, one (1) shall be a
member from each or any historic district that shall either own property or reside within the district;
one (1) shall be the Executive Director of North Texas VISION Inc.; two (2) shall be licensed or
have expertise in the field of architecture; and three (3) shall be members -at- large."
Mr. Collins requested clarification regarding the expansion of membership — whether it was in total
number or in level of expertise. Mr. Newsom responded it was the number of members that
would potentially increase, ie. more members if the executive director VISIONS position is
incorporated. He added that the current wording in the Ordinance does not allow for the
executive director of VISIONS to be a member of the Commission. Ms. Holland stated that there
should be a separate position for the downtown association representative not an overlap with the
appointee who represents the Depot Square Historic District. Mr. Newsom concurred that having
a representative related to downtown revitalization is not the same as a representative for the
Depot Square. It is also important to maintain some member -at -large positions on the
Commission because they provide diversity from the community.
After discussing the potential for including additional representation to the Commission and
tentative wording, Ms. Blackwood introduced a motion that the Historic Preservation Ordinance be
revised to address Landmark Commission composition by adding a position for the Executive
Director of North Texas VISION Inc. Mr. Collins seconded the motion. Discussion regarding
wording and phrasing followed and Mr. Newsom introduced an amended motion to make
revisions to both Section 62 -36 (a) and (b) regarding membership and that the recommended
revisions be forwarded to City Council for consideration. Mr. Collins seconded the amended
motion. Motion passed unanimously.
IV. UPDATES:
a) Certified Local Government (CLG) Agreement with TX Historical Commission
Ms. Montgomery-Gagne informed members that the City received the tentative C.L.G.
agreement for the Mayor's signature in early February. The Mayor signed the agreements
on February 61h and subsequently forwarded to Texas Historical Commission for final review
and signature. She added that upon final sign off and receipt of the agreement, the City of
Wichita Falls would be a Certified Local Government with the opportunity to apply for
preservation planning grant funds and for training /conference assistance to assist
Commission members to attend state seminars. Members were pleased that after 1 -2 years
working on this process the City was very close to obtaining the C.L.G. status.
b) City Council Review — Instructional Booklet for Nominating Landmarks/Historic
Districts — March Stn Review
Ms. Montgomery-Gagne indicated that the instructional booklet would be presented to
Council at their March 5th meeting for comment and endorsement. The instructional booklet
was not included in the February 19th Council packet in order to give them additional time to
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review the updated requirements and procedures noted in the booklet. She briefly
highlighted that numerous Commission members requested in November during the
discussions /review regarding historic district designation and the requirement of 70%
commitment on behalf of the property owners to be reviewed and endorsed by the City
Council. Ms. Montgomery-Gagne indicated that she would provide a report regarding
Council's decision at the March meeting. Ms. Holland asked if it would be appropriate for
Commission members to attend the March 5th meeting in support of the booklet. Planning
staff encouraged any and all Commission members to attend the meeting in support or to
speak on behalf of the agenda item. Staff informed members that this would be considered
as a resolution — the Council meeting would commence at 8:30 a.m.
c) Floral Heights Neighborhood — Request for District Application Forms
Ms. Montgomery-Gagne informed the Commission members that Ms. Looney from the
Floral Heights Neighborhood Association had requested nomination materials for
designating the Floral Heights area. She noted that the Floral Heights application would
probably include approximately 200 properties and generally include the areas from
Buchanan west to Hayes Street and from 10th Street south to Avenue H.
d) Signage — Depot Square & Downtown
Ms. Craft provided a detailed overview on the signage subcommittee's activities for updated
signage in the downtown and the historic district. She noted that sample sign designs were
developed for review by the City and the VISIONS Board. Ms. Craft commented that there
would be approximately 17 of the new signs placed at 11 locations within the Depot Square
Historic District. The proposed historic district logo would be placed on the end of the street
signs with a forest green background and silver lettering while the logo portion would have
reverse coloring. In addition to the traditional street/sign poles there are 3 signs proposed
for placement at 7 1 8 1 and Ohio Street, which indicate people, are entering the Depot
Square Historic District.
The VISIONS Board unanimously approved to update the signage in both the downtown
and historic district. Ms. Craft noted that she is working with Mr. John Burrus (City traffic
superintendent) on the production and placement schedule. Ms. Craft informed the
Commission that the City had recently completed the tree - planting program for 2002 with 41
new trees added to the downtown core.
e) State Preservation Conference — April 2002
Ms. Holland reminded and encouraged everyone to attend the state preservation
conference being held in Abilene during April. She will be attending with Heritage Society
Board members.
V. PRESENTATION from SOUTHLAND NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION
REPRESENTATIVES
Ms. Holland invited those people in attendance for the Southland application to discuss their
concerns and talk with both the Commission members and staff. There were four people in
attendance representing the Southland neighborhood association group.
Ms. Murer indicated that originally the association wanted to take Commission members on a
detailed tour of the Southland addition and highlight the seven types of bungalow represented
within the proposed area for designation, key items to look for and analyze, along with special
design review guidelines for bungalow neighborhoods. Ms. Murer outlined that the neighborhood
association representatives were in attendance to answer questions from the Landmark
Commission regarding the application.
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'Ms. Murer highlighted that the within the proposed area for historic designation there are two main
bungalow types - bungalow and prairie /craftsman.
Ms. Saillant questioned the rationale for having received only one reply form when two properties
on McGregor are listed under her ownership. Planning staff indicated that they had used the
Wichita County Appraisal District records for creating the mailing labels. An explanation
letter /map and reply form were prepared and mailed for every property within the proposed district
application. Some property owners with multiple properties would receive a form for each lot
under their ownership. Mr. Anderson (1825 Pearl) also commented that he had not yet received a
reply /survey form in the mail. Staff indicated that the majority of the letters were mailed on
February 15th, however, some didn't go out until February 19th due to the President's Day holiday
and no mail service. Ms. Montgomery-Gagne indicated that she would provide additional letters
and reply forms for association representatives to distribute to property owners who didn't receive
one in the mail.
Ms. Saillant informed the Commission that in her area along McGregor, there are many property
owners in favor of the historic designation and throughout the proposed area there are property
owners actively rehabbing their properties. The neighborhood association representatives voiced
a concern regarding the processing of the application since many property owners received a
neighborhood newsletter 2% yrs prior noting that there was an application for historic designation.
Ms. Holland addressed concerns noting that the staff member who first received the application in
December 2001 was not expecting it at that time. She informed neighborhood representatives
that the Commission had expended significant time, research and energy since the beginning of
2000 to update and simplify the entire historic application process. Planning staff noted that the
majority of City applications and instruction /requirements used by Ms. Murer in developing the
Southland application dated to the mid- 1980's and had never been thoroughly updated. Ms.
Murer indicated a concern with the new requirements for historic district nominations, noting the
requirements for a minimum of 70% of property owners to be in favor of designation. She
explained that many communities only require 51 % commitment from property owners in an effort
to save the proposed area. Mr. Newsom provided background information regarding the
designation and expansion efforts with the Depot Square Historic District. He indicated that with
the proposed expansion of the downtown historic district in 1999, there was a vocal group of
property owners that came to the Landmark Commission and also to Council. As a result the
expansion did not proceed, Mr. Newsom added that in the past the general understanding was a
100% commitment from property owners. Reducing the commitment to 51% may not work in
favor for the designation of Southland.
Discussion regarding the procedures and application requirements continued among Landmark
Commission members and Southland neighbors. Ms. Craft asked if the application was now
finalized with regard to boundaries, etc. Ms. Murer indicated that the application was complete
based on their understanding as of December 4th when it was given to planning staff. Ms.
Montgomery-Gagne informed the Commission that there were discrepancies regarding the
application boundaries. Through the entire process the general boundaries were explained as
11th Street to Kell (but not including Kell) and Brook west to Harrison. Planning staff and
Commission members interpreted the application to include everything inside those boundaries
The application did not clearly outline that it was to include both sides of 11th and Harrison and
only the west side of Brook Streets. Ms. Murer noted that if planning staff had any uncertainty
regarding the application they should have contacted her to discuss the issues. She explained
that on February 8th the application boundaries were discussed with planning staff and the area
for consideration was expanded to also include the north side of 11th Street and the west side of
Harrison. Ms. Montgomery-Gagne stated that she contacted Mr. Hebner, Southland
Neighborhood Association president to obtain a final determination on the amended application
boundaries. The Planning office was informed by the Neighborhood Association president that
the application should include both sides of 11 th Street to Kell Boulevard, the west side of Brook to
the east side of Harrison.
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Ms. Holland commented that the City Landmark Commission has never reviewed a district
application as large as the Southland request for designation. Noting that phasing the 638
properties in 3 areas would be more expedient for both the neighborhood and the Commission.
Ms. Holland noted that depending on the property owner responses sent back for review, if there
are areas that end up having a large concentration of approvals, then that area will be reviewed
by Landmarks and forwarded to Council for final determination. In the interim, it provides the
Neighborhood Association addition time to work with property owners who are opposed or
provided no response to the application.
Ms. Murer asked if staff contacted other cities regarding how historic district applications are
processed. Staff responded, noting, there are few examples of such large local residential
districts designated all at one time within the State. However, staff would contact the TX
Historical Commission to obtain potential examples (ie. San Antonio, Dallas, etc.). Mr. Newsom
and staff encouraged the Neighborhood Association members to hand deliver flyers or information
to help increase awareness.
VI. DISCUSSION of SOUTHLAND ADDITION APPLICATION for HISTORIC DISTRICT
NOMINATION
Mr. Newsom introduced a motion that discussion of the Southland Addition Historic District
Application be tabled until after the March 8th deadline for submittal of property owner
commitment/interest in the historic designation. Ms. Blackwood seconded the motion. Motion
passed unanimously.
VII. ADJOURN
Meeting was adjourned at 4:35 p.m. The next regular meeting was scheduled for Thursday,
March 28`h at Memorial Auditorium for 3:00 p.m.
Andi Holland, Chairperson
Date
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