Landmark Commission Minutes - 09/01/2004a
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MINUTES
LANDMARK COMMISSION
September 1, 2004
PRESENT:
Jan Schaaf, Chairperson
Ken Dowdy, Vice Chairperson
Ken Birck
Shirley Craft
Ralph Gibson
Drew Hayes
Dianne Thueson
David A. Clark, Director of Community Development
Karen Montgomery- Gagne, Planner III
GUESTS:
Ken Humpert, partner, Marchman Building
Jim Glasgow, partner, Marchman Building
Conrad Staley, Staley, Baker, Monson Architects
Gary Baker, Staley, Baker, Monson Architects
Monty Monson, Staley, Baker, Monson Architects
ABSENT:
Michael Collins
Doug James
James Esther, Jr.
CITY CLERK'S OFFICE
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I. & II. CALL TO ORDER & REVIEW & APPROVAL OF MINUTES
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The Chairperson called for discussion and comments on the April meeting minutes.
Commission members briefly reviewed the minutes and Mr. Dowdy motioned to accept the
minutes as presented. Mr. Gibson seconded the motion. Motion passed unanimously.
III. DISCUSSION & REVIEW LANDMARK DESIGNATION REMOVAL
Planning staff provided a brief overview of the request for design review at the Marchman
building, located at 925 Lamar Street. An enclosed stair tower is being added on the
northern side of the building with a second stair tower under construction above the
southern end (adjacent to 10th Street). Staff referred Commission members to photos of
the site alterations and design review application included with the meeting packets.
Mr. Humpert and Mr. Glasgow, partners with the project, stated, in their opinion, drivit
would be a suitable building material for this project since other buildings in the downtown
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core have utilized the same surface materials and it will be tinted to blend in with the
existing brick facade. Mr. Humpert provided photos of other buildings in the downtown
that were covered with the same drivit material. He indicated that at this time, the project
partners are unable financially to cover the stair towers with masonry materials. The
project architects (Staley, Baker, Monson) stated that there are two key issues — timing
and financial constraints with having to change the plans and utilize a masonry surface.
The renovation project has a strict timeline with tenants set to move in before the end of
September. Mr. Staley stated that when their firm began working on the renovation project
they were not aware the Marchman building was a City landmark. Mr. Baker and Mr.
Staley both commented that if their firm was unaware of the City's Design Review
Guidelines for working on historic buildings, then probably the other architectural firms in
Wichita Falls are not aware of the requirements.
Mr. Dowdy commented that the Holt project had to address similar issues with the addition
of a secondary stair tower to provide alternate means of egress to conform with the City
Fire & Building Code requirements. However, the Holt addition is being covered with brick
materials. He suggested that traditional stucco was permitted in the guidelines and also
met Texas Historical Commission (THC) standards. The architects responded that in this
part of Texas there tend to be problems associated with traditional stucco, including
cracking, leaks, mold infiltration, etc. Ms. Thueson responded that the issue was not a
question of material or quality it is an issue with the age of the proposed materials and the
process. She indicated that this new drivit process is approximately 20 -30 years too
recent to be recognized as an acceptable material on designated historic structures.
Mr. Clark commented that there were a number of processes in place — the existing
building was not currently being renovated as a 'historic rehabilitation.' The key question
for discussion is whether the Landmark Commission will accept drivit as a suitable siding
material or whether the building should be dedesignated. Mr. Clark informed the project
partners that the building is still eligible for the 10% federal tax credit due to it's age and
recommended that they pursue this option.
Mr. Dowdy requested a breakdown in the cost comparison between traditional brick vs.
drivit. The architects responded that by utilizing a brick veneer it would cost approximately
$50,000 whereas installing drivit will cost $33,000. In addition, the height of the stair tower
impacts the brick mason's fees. The architects stated that if they had known earlier in the
rehabilitation process that the building was a designated landmark they would have tried to
utilize other options for the surface material.
Ms. Thueson and Ms. Craft commented that they didn't want to discourage people from
renovating buildings downtown. However, Ms. Thueson stated that the design review
guidelines are just the minimum standards in place to help maintain the historic
architecture and character. The guidelines endorsed by City Council in September 2003
are based on the national historic rehabilitation standards set out by the Secretary of the
Interior in their Illustrated Guidelines for Rehabilitatinq Historic Buildings. After
discussion, Ms. Thueson introduced a motion that the Landmark Commission
recommends dedesignation of The Marchman Building at 925 Lamar from the City
• Landmark. Mr. Birck seconded the motion. The Chairperson called for a vote - six
members voted in favor and one member abstained from the vote. Ms. Craft commented
that as the former Downtown Coordinator she was in a difficult position to vote on the
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issue. She, on behalf of the Commission commended the property owners for their efforts
in turning a former derelict building into a useful site in the downtown. Ms. Craft stated that
the recommendation to dedesignate doesn't hurt the owner's endeavors but it is
unfortunate whenever any building is removed from landmark status.
Mr. Humpert noted that he and the other building partners were disappointed that the Tax
Increment Financing (TIF) boundaries were not recommended for amendment at the May
TIF Board meeting. He stated that there is a need for some type of incentive to assist
people willing to rehabilitate older buildings downtown. TIF funds might have been able to
cover the cost for the brick veneer on the stair tower.
Commission members discussed whether another form of recognition might be considered
regarding the historic significance of a site. A building itself may not be of an architectural
character to require design review. It was suggested that the building owners contact the
Wichita County Historical Commission to apply for a Texas Historical Marker that would
outline the historic events that once occurred at the Marchman Hotel in the 1920- 1940s.
The Chairperson thanked the building owners and architects for their attendance and
continued development in the downtown. Planning staff were directed to forward
informational packets to each architectural firm in Wichita Falls explaining the City's design
review guidelines, include a listing of all locally designated historic sites /buildings /districts
and a copy of the guidelines for their reference.
IV. REVIEW & APPROVAL OF FINAL DEPOT SQUARE SIGN DESIGN
Planning staff presented the two final sign designs (previously emailed to all members) for
Commission consideration. After discussion, the Commission reached an agreement on
the design preference with Option #1 — Depot Square National Historic District. Mr.
Dowdy introduced a motion that the preferred sign design be presented to the VISIONS
Executive Director for input and approval. Mr. James seconded the motion. Ms. Thueson
and Mr. Gibson commented that the language on the signs should send a clear message
to all visitors, residents, etc. Ms. Thueson added that Commission members, staff and
preservationists understand the meaning of stating the Depot District is a 'National
Register Listing' but the average person may not realize the significance. Staff will forward
the final sign design (Depot Square National Historic District) to Ms. Crump with VISIONS
for their Board's approval. Upon VISIONS approval, staff will work with Mr. Beauchamp,
Traffic Superintendent, to have the signs produced and installed.
Ms. Thueson, on behalf of the entire Commission, acknowledged and thanked Mr. Hayes
for his continued work on the signage project.
V. UPDATE & DISCUSSION OF CLG GRANT APPLICATION RESULTS (Heritage
Video Project)
Planning staff informed the Commission that the CLG grant application was ranked tenth
of the seventeen submitted. Ms. Gagne added that in a conversation with THC staff, the
• City should receive a letter in late September outlining the grant was ranked and will be
forwarded to the National Park Service for final determination. It may be November before
we officially know if the funding is approved. However, THC staff encouraged us to
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continue researching and gathering materials for the rroject anticipating that it will be
approved. Staff tentatively scheduled September 30t at 3:00 pm for a work session on
the heritage video project.
VI. OTHER BUSINESS:
a) Report on the THC Historic Preservation Conference
Ms. Gagne indicated that the conference in Fort Worth had some very informative sessions and
was an excellent opportunity to discuss the draft CLG grant with THC's CLG Program Director.
She referred members to their packets, which included copies of four conference session
handouts. One resource of particular interest was the Historic Resources List - a useful guide for
preservation resources. The 2005 annual conference is scheduled for Austin.
b) Report on the WCHS Preservation Awards — May 2004
Ms. Gagne thanked the Commission members who were able to attend this event, noting that it
was held in the renovated Marchman building lobby. Mr. Gibson and Ms. Craft both commented
that the event was both well attended and well organized. Some of the awards of interest
included: The City of Wichita Falls for the Memorial Auditorium; Mr. Roby Christie for historic
rehab of the Texoma Cycling building on Wichita St.; Mr. Jim Newsom (former Landmark Commission
member) rehabilitation of residence on Elizabeth St. (Southland). Ms. Gagne informed members
that a special award was presented to recognize four key individuals that turned the Holt project
into a reality — Mr. Dave Clark, Mr. Jim Johnson, Ms. Gayla Morris and Ms. Ann Smith. Without
the intervention and volunteer efforts from these individuals the Holt rehabilitation project may
never have happened.
c) Administrative Design Review — First United Methodist Church
Staff received a request to review minor building modifications in order to address subsurface
water leaking into the basement. The project area was situated on the western (Travis) side
between the main building and the handicapped ramp entrance. The architects proposed to
remove one non - original, plate -glass window, the associated light well and re- direct a drainpipe so
water moves away from the building. Staff met with architects on -site and later issued a certificate
of appropriateness based on the 'administrative review' option in the Design Review Guidelines.
The certificate noted a stipulation, that if possible, the window opening be filled -in with salvaged
brick from the light well to match the existing brick fagade.
d) Report — THC Annual Central Texas Workshop — Abilene
Planning staff stated that this event was comparable to the event hosted by Wichita Falls last year
at the Kemp Center. Ms. Gagne commented that they were very pleased with the attendance at
the Wichita Falls event (118 registrants) after seeing the Abilene workshop had approximately 65-
70 participants. Overall there were good work sessions, an opportunity to meet with Abilene
planning staff and discuss planning issues, and meet with THC staff and other participants, a tour
provided of historic rehabs in downtown and new 'Frontier Texas' Museum. In conjunction, Ms.
Hartman, WCHS Executive Director, Ms. Broussard, WCHS assistant and Ms. Gagne arranged to
meet with John Dugan, Develop Abilene- Downtown Programs during the afternoon for an overview
tour of 4 key rehab projects — The Wooten Bldg, The Windsor Hotel, Windsor Building, Depot
Building, etc.
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e) Progress Report — Holt Hotel Project
Mr. Clark indicated that the progress was very evident with the majority of windows on the Eighth
Street fagade installed. As of late August, the stud walls were in place on all floors and dry wall
was anticipated for installation by mid - September. Commission members inquired about the
status of the Buchanan Terrace apartments and Mr. Clark provided an update.
fl Progress Report — West Floral Heights Historic District Application
Planning staff commented that they attended the July neighborhood association meeting and
answered questions regarding the nomination process of a historic district. The association
anticipates having approximately 87% of property owners' support for the proposed nomination
area of 200 properties. Planning staff stated that they had encouraged the West Floral Heights
group to continue working on the other elements of the application (ie. description of the area,
historical significance, map of area proposed for nomination, etc.) in order to submit a 'complete'
nomination. Ms. Gagne anticipated receiving the association's application packet in early October
with a Landmark Commission public hearing scheduled for mid - November.
g) WCHS Historic Sites /Tour Brochure Project
Planning staff informed the Commission that they are working with the Heritage Society to update
the historic sites tour brochure that was previously developed in the mid -80's. The brochure will
include all city, state, nationally designated sites /buildings and historic marker sites on maps for
the City of Wichita Falls, Burkburnett, Iowa Park and Electra. Ms. Craft commented that the older,
existing brochure is an excellent resource that is still utilized the by various agencies (ie. Wichita
Falls Visitors & Convention Bureau, etc.) but was definitely in need of updating. If any Commission
members would like to assist with this project they may contact the WCHS.
d4 h) American Bungalow Article /TRNews Editorial
Planning staff indicated that the fall issue of American Bungalow featured a story about Wichita
Falls and as a follow -up, the local Times Record Newspaper had an editorial regarding
preservation in our community. The American Bungalow article was written by Dawn Murer and
Lisa Worley featuring bungalows in Southland addition. The Chairperson asked members if they
had read the follow -up editorial and requested their comments. Numerous members indicated a
frustration with the editorial and how it portrayed a negative view of the preservation efforts in
Wichita Falls. The general consensus of the Commission was the editorial required a response
from members. Ms. Craft introduced a motion that planning staff prepare a response, on behalf of
the Commission, to the editor of the Times Record Newspaper. Ms. Thueson seconded the
motion. The Commission members voted unanimously to support this motion.
i) CLG Annual Report
Ms. Gagne informed the Commission that each year CLG designated communities are required to
submit an annual report outlining preservation activities. This year's report is due in mid -
September. Staff submitted a mid -year report to THC in April that outlined Commission and staff
preservation activities from July 2003 - January 2004.
VII. ADJOURN
The Landmark Commission was adjourned at 4:25 pm. Next meeting tentatively
scheduled from September 30th to begin work on the CLG Heritage Video project.
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