Landmark Commission Minutes - 04/27/2005M I N U T E S CITY CLERK'S OFFICE
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April 27, 2005 By
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MEMBERS PRESENT:
Jan Schaaf, Chairperson ■ Members
Ken Dowdy, Vice Chairperson ■
Shirley Craft ■
Stacie Flood ■
Doug James ■
Dianne Thueson ■
David A. Clark ■ Staff
Karen Montgomery- Gagne, Planner III ■
GUESTS:
Jennifer Fashimpar, Exec. Dir., Wichita County Heritage Society
ABSENT:
Michael Collins ■
Drew Hayes ■
James Esther, Jr. ■ Council Liaison
II. REVIEW & APPROVAL OF MEETING MINUTES
The Chairperson called for discussion and approval of the March 17th meeting minutes, there
being no discussion. Mr. Ken Dowdy introduced a motion to approve the minutes as presented
and Ms. Dianne Thueson seconded the motion. Motion passed unanimously.
III. PRESENTATION FROM THE WICHITA COUNTY HERITAGE SOCIETY (WCHS)
— 2005 THC CONFERENCE
The Chairperson welcomed Ms. Jennifer Fashimpar, Executive Director, WCHS who provided an
overview of the recent 2004 Texas Historical Commission Conference in Austin during mid - April.
Ms. Fashimpar provided handouts from a session of particular interest — `Analyzing Architecture
with an Eye Towards Protection.' She referred Commission members to useful reference material
within the report that may assist members as they and consider buildings /sites for future landmark
status. Ms. Fashimpar outlined the National Register's four key criteria for evaluating buildings
along with the Seven Aspects of Integrity: a) location; b) design; c) setting; d) materials; e)
workmanship; f) feeling; and g) association. Ms. Craft inquired about other components of the
conference, Ms. Fashimpar noted that there were 300 attendees with the majority being city
planners. Representation from other non - profit agencies was limited to about 30 people. Ms.
Fashimpar outlined that she also attended an informative seminar about the process of surveying
historic cemeteries. She provided an architectural key for use by staff and Commission members.
The Commission and staff thanked Ms. Fashimpar for her presentation.
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IV. APPLICATION FOR DESIGN REVIEW — Littlest Skyscraper
The Chairperson introduced the application and Mr. Dowdy indicated that he had a conflict of
interest and would abstain from voting. He proceeded to explain the design review request and
answer questions regarding the upcoming restoration project for the Littlest Skyscraper building
complex at 507, 509 and 511 Seventh Street. The architectural plans depict the restoration and
replacement of the traditional storefront windows and framing along the Seventh Street facade,
windows will be repaired and painted and a new canopy constructed at the north entrance to the
4 -story skyscraper building. The masonry will be repointed and the south wall that sustained
significant damage during the windstorm in 2003 will be stabilized.
Ms. Craft asked if Bundy, Young Sims & Potter were no longer partners in the project with Mr.
Marvin Groves Sr. Mr. Clark noted that the application listed the ownership as 'Littlest Skyscraper,
LLC' Mr. Dowdy indicated that to his knowledge Mr. Groves Sr. was still involved with the
partnership. Mr. Dowdy noted that the attached buildings are a component of this restoration
project. Members asked what level of designation existing for the Skyscraper complex? Mr.
Dowdy and staff indicated that it is situated within the Depot Square Historic District and National
Register. However, only the Littlest Skyscraper building has an individual landmark designation.
Mr. Dowdy stated that the project partners might proceed with an application for national tax
credits however additional review by THC would be required. Mr. James inquired whether there
was a proposed tenant for the buildings? Mr. Dowdy indicated that a tenant exists with a retail
oriented business. Ms. Thueson asked about the hooks in the photos along the Seventh Street
facade. Ms. Craft responded that the hooks, in past decades, would have anchored a metal
canopy. Mr. Dowdy commented the new storefront design would echo that of the Route Building
at 503 Eighth Street.
Ms. Craft inquired about the interior finish and whether the exposed brick walls would be
maintained. Mr. Dowdy and Mr. Clark both commented that when an application for tax credits is
submitted, issues often arise at the State level of review regarding exposed brick. At this time,
THC requires all internal exposed brick walls to be resurfaced with plaster. Mr. Clark added that
this was a major ($70,000) unbudgeted expense with the Holt project. Commission members
were surprised to hear that THC no longer permitted the exposed brick in historic buildings. Ms.
Craft named examples in Dallas -Fort Worth where exposed brick still exists inside the renovated
buildings. Mr. Dowdy commented that the developers of those buildings probably didn't pursue
historic tax credits during the project and that in recent years THC has changed their position on
allowing exposed brick. Mr. James commented that being a purist is not always realistic. Mr.
Dowdy stated, in his experience, THC staff is not sensitive to the cost factors related to their
stringent requirements (ie. disallowing exposed brick) for historic building renovation.
Ms. Thueson introduced a motion to approve the design review application for the Littlest
Skyscraper building complex as presented. Ms. Craft seconded the motion. The motion passed
with unanimous support with the exception of Mr. Dowdy who abstained from voting.
V. REVIEW & ENDORSEMENT OF `NOTICE TO REQUEST VOLUNTEERS'
POSTING FOR THE WEST FLORAL HEIGHTS HISTORIC DISTRICT
Planning staff provided Commission members with a draft notice for posting on both the City's
website and on Cable Channel 11 in an effort to encourage West Floral Heights Historic District
residents to apply for the Design Review Committee volunteer positions. Staff noted that in 2003
• when the preservation documents were updated, there were provisions for the appointment of a
Historic District Preservation Liaison and Design Review Committee. Ms. Craft and Ms. Thueson
both requested staff revise the draft notice to have a less formal style in the hope of encouraging
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more neighborhood applicants. The Commission discussed some of the content for the notice
and staff indicated that the information had already been forwarded to Ms. Carolyn Looney with
the West Floral Heights Neighborhood Association. The request for neighborhood volunteers to
serve on the design review committee will be published in their May newsletter. Staff indicated
that they are aiming for a June 1 application deadline in order for the Commission to review
submittals at the June meeting and forward a recommendation to City Council for the West Floral
Heights Historic District Preservation Liaison. According to the City's Preservation Ordinance, the
neighborhood Liaison is a non - voting member of the Landmark Commission. Commission
members asked what the neighborhood design committee would review. Staff responded that
they anticipated the local design committee would review minor design review requests within the
neighborhood and the Preservation Liaison overview see the design committee and provide
monthly updates to the Landmark Commission. Some members inquired about the City's system
for ensuring no permits are obtained prior to design review. Mr. Clark explained that upon City
Council's designation of a landmark or district, the street address along with the legal description
is provided to the Building Inspection Division. The Inspections staff enters the designated lots
into their main database so whenever a contractor, etc. applies for a permit it 'flags' the database
and the Planning division is contacted for verification. Staff indicated that they would conduct an
experiment with the West Floral Heights Historic District and randomly pick some property
addresses to ensure that the review system is in order.
VI. REVIEW, COMMENT & APPOINTMENT OF A SUBCOMMITTEE FOR THE CLG
GRANT VIDEO PROJECT & MEETING SCHEDULE FOR RESEARCH
Ms. Thueson informed Commission members that she located a copy of the video from her work
in North Dakota in the mid 1990's. She explained that at the time, technology was not as
advanced and the taped presentation consisted of three simultaneous slide projectors showing
historic segments from the community. Ms. Thueson did note that the video is more engaging
than traditional video because someone taped the multi -slide presentation as it was presented.
Ms. Thueson stated that at the time it was very effective for the purpose of getting the community
to support preservation as it was prepared for a general audience of any age group. Ms. Craft
inquired if our CLG video project would have similar goals of being informational and educational
for the community.
Ms. Thueson stated that in North Dakota third grade is the entry level of studying local history.
She added that a local professional was involved with the project to provide narration services.
Planning staff indicated that City Council had endorsed the appropriations ordinance for CLG
Grant funds and Mr. Berzina, City Manager, signed the grant. Planning staff have started the
process of contacting people identified to serve on the steering committee, there are
approximately ten people including two Commission members and staff. Contacts have been
made with both the Cityview and Wichita Falls ISD curriculum staffers to obtain their input during
the initial project - planning phase. Staff concurred with a comment from Ms. Thueson that Wichita
Falls schools also begin teaching local history in third grade.
The Members general consensus was to contact Dr. Collins to develop a timeframe for our initial
steering committee meetings and then invite the other committee members. Staff indicated that
technically this is considered a 2005 CLG grant and we had until September 2006 to complete
and submit the educational video.
VII. DISCUSSION & COMMENT REGARDING POTENTIAL SLIPCOVER
REMOVAL AT 615 & 617 OHIO
• Planning staff provided a brief overview of the request for preliminary design review at 615 & 617
Ohio. The property owners are investigating the potential for renovating /rehabilitating the
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remainder of their building. They would like to remove the metal slipcover to see the condition of
the underlying brick fagade. Mr. Dowdy clarified that the request was only to remove a small
portion of the slipcover and staff agreed. Mr. Clark provided additional information regarding the
plans to renovate the second story of the Kerr - Hursh- Templeton building. The Chairperson
inquired about the uses for the second story, Mr. Clark commented that some ideas might include
a bed & breakfast, apartments, etc.; however, no specific use was identified by the owners at this
time.
Mr. Dowdy commented that mortar prior to 1900 is architecturally unstable. Mortar was
composed of sand and lime prior to 1900 and in some cases when slipcovers are later removed
the original mortar has disintegrated and significant work is required to fix the mortar /brickwork.
Ms. Thueson asked other members if they know the age of the metal slipcover, it was discussed
that it probably dated back to the 1950's/60's based on the slipcovers placed on other buildings
(ie. Muehlberger's and Big Blue). Ms. Thueson stated on behalf of the entire Commission that the
property owners should be commended for their commitment to downtown and working to
improve the aesthetics. The Commission wished the property owners well with their project and
to allow them to remove a section of slipcover to determine the condition of the brick fapade. Mr.
James introduced a motion to approve the request for design review for partial slipcover removal
and Mr. Dowdy seconded the motion. Motion passed with unanimous support.
VIII. OTHER BUSINESS:
a. Holt Hotel Progress Report
Mr. Clark and Mr. Dowdy updated the members on the progress of the renovation project.
Mr. Clark indicated that the design committee selected colors for the main lobby on April
191h. Mr. Dowdy noted the building will have 41 units for rent at market rates. The units
will range from 1 to 2 bedrooms with 15 differing floor plans. Ms. Thueson inquired about
the cost to rent a unit and Mr. Clark responded that the smallest 1 bedroom would be
approximately $500. Members asked if any units were pre- rented or if provisions were in
place for a waiting list. Ms. Flood indicated that Ms. Fashimpar with the WCHS is
maintaining a master list of names and there are approximately 25 -30 people interested in
renting.
b. Preservation Newsletters & Publications — staff referred members to information
included in the meeting packets. Staff indicated they received a request for information
through the THC's listserve for resources pertaining to World War II. Mr. James
suggested the Museum of North Texas History as they have significant information
regarding Call Field Airfield. Ms. Thueson recommended the Heritage Center at
SAFBase. Staff indicated that they would email this information along with a contact name
and phone number to THC staff.
IX. ADJOURN
The Commission meeting adjourned at 4:50 pm.
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