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WICHITA FALLS METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION
Technical Advisory Committee
Minutes
Wednesday, April 2, 2003
Voting Members Present:
Joe Anderson — TxDOT, Director of Construction
John Barton — TxDOT, Dir. of Transportation Planning and Development
Tim Hertel — TxDOT, Director of Operations
Jeff Hogan - City of Wichita Falls, City Engineer
Darron Leiker — City of Wichita Falls — ACM /Dir. Aviation, Traffic & Trans.
David Lyne - City of Wichita Falls, Engineering Department
Andy Petter — TxDOT, Area Engineer
Steve Seese — MPO Director
Others Present.
Carolyn Askins — TxDOT, Transportation Planning Assistant
Lin Barnett — MPO, Planner II
Karen Montgomery-Gagne — MPO, Planner III
Highway Needs Committee Members:
Gordon Griffith
Joe Jacobi
J. W. Martin
Bettye Tanner - Shelby
Visitors:
Barbara Lingle for David Farabee - State Representative
Charles P. Kazmer - Citizen
George Lueck — TxDOT (TPP) Austin
Gregory Lancaster — TxDOT (TPP) Austin
Jon Moller — Citizen
Absent:
Dave Clark — City of Wichita Falls, Dir. of Community Development
1. Welcome & Introduction
The MPO Director called the meeting to order at 8:35 a.m. Introductions were made
around the room with special recognition of Mr. Greg Lancaster and Mr. George
Lueck from TxDOT (TPP - Traffic Analysis Division) in Austin.
11. Public Comment on Any Item Not on the Agenda
Mr. Seese asked for comments on any item not on the agenda, no comments were
received. He then suggested allowing Mr. Lancaster and Mr. Lueck make their
presentation first because of a previous commitment in Dallas at 12:30 p.m.
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Mr. Lancaster proceeded to discuss the transportation model and its timeline,
stating it should be completed around July 2003. He asked the board if the MTP
forecast timeframe could be bumped from 2025 to 2030 in order to keep it within
the MTP criteria of a 20 -year plan. Mr. Seese discussed the ongoing conversations
with Austin as to the completion of the model. Mr. Lancaster stated the base year
would be complete in 2 -3 weeks with the forecast date roughly 2 months later. Mr.
Seese asked about 5 year saturation counts and if they would be included because
of all the recent construction within the MPO boundaries. He asked if the validity of
the model would stay intact. Mr. Lancaster stated the model would be valid to the
counts that were taken within plus or minus 5 percent. The counts were done in
2000, but Mr. Lancaster stated they needed to be done again in 2005 to revalidate
a new model.
Mr. Barton asked if services needed to be retained to update the demographic
information since U.S. Census (2000) data had become available or if that data had
already been incorporated into the model. Mr. Lancaster commented he believed
the data had been checked against census data; however, (TPP) Austin used the
data submitted by the MPO. Mr. Barton offered that it would be beneficial to have
someone fit current census data to the model in preparation for the 2005 model.
Mr. Lancaster commented that several cities were going to validate their model with
2000 census data. Mr. Seese discussed the Wilbur -Smith consulting firm study
completed in September 2000 and the long wait from TxDOT for the data to come
back. He pointed out TxDOT's position was not to communicate with consultants
but via District and MPO staff and the need for some type of TOOT approved
format for completing the research. Mr. Lancaster agreed the model was long
overdue in coming back from TOOT, but there were concerns with employment, as
it was all contained within Wichita County, specifically within the MSA, which
produced a 75% employment rate. This was generating many trips, but the
modelers had overcome the problem. Mr. Lancaster then discussed a new program
TOOT was offering that would help MPO's write contracts with consultants or, if
the MPO would rather, do the work in- house. Mr. Barton commented the MPO was
not quite clear on the scope of the project and that help would be welcome. Mr.
Lancaster then handed out timelines for the project. Mr. Barton advocated following
up quickly with the additional census data once the model was in hand.
Mr. Seese turned the discussion to TransCAD and its implementation. Mr.
Lancaster stated he had brought updates for it with him. Ms. Gagne commented
there was a need for training on the software. The board agreed to Mr. Lancaster's
suggestion to change the 2025 plan to 2030 and to provide updates to TPP as
required. Mr. Lancaster then gave TOOT and the MPO their TransCAD updates.
Mr. Lancaster and Mr. Lueck concluded their presentation and excused themselves
from the remainder of the meeting.
111. Discussion and Approval of January 8th & 16th TAC meeting minutes
Motion #1:
Mr. Seese asked for discussion of the minutes, there being none. Mr. Leiker
motioned to approve the minutes and Mr. Anderson seconded the motion, which
carried unanimously.
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IV. Review and Comment Regarding the Transportation Policy Committee's
January 22"d Meeting Minutes
Mr. Seese asked for discussion and comment on the minutes, there being none. No
action was required.
V. Review, Discussion & Recommendation of Updates /Revisions to the MTP-
Table 3 -4 Project & Financial Plan
Ms. Gagne outlined the updates and revisions to the table explaining the proposed
changes were in bold or shading. She commented the long -range plan needed to
reflect all proposed projects for the upcoming TIP (2004 - 2006). She stated all
projects were now listed in the table and were still outlined using the former funding
categories. The next step would be to re- organize the projects under the 12 new
funding categories. She went through the different small projects and how they
would be listed under Category 4A. Next, she described the revisions to Category
6, bridges. Under Category 10 she described some miscellaneous work that would
be done concerning landscaping. Mr. Seese questioned if there was a separate
category for landscaping, Mr. Barton stated that Category 10 was designated for
landscaping. Ms. Gagne stated she kept the format in its original form for
simplicity's sake but major changes would eventually happen and requested the
board's assistance as needed when making the transition. She then discussed
Category 7,8,11,12,14, and 16, the Various Programs, and its updates. Mr. Barton
explained events taking place on Business 287J from Loop 11, that it was currently
in Phase 2. Ms. Gagne then outlined the Category 4D Urban Mobility projects. One
other inclusion she commented on was the enhancement project for the bicycle trail
system awarded to MSU listed under Other Needs.
Mr. Seese expressed his concern about project number 11 on page 5 and whether
it should be split up. Mr. Barton stated this would be two out of the four ramps
needed and funding might have to come from another source. Ms. Gagne stated
the proposed changes were for the board's review and requested they consider
them for recommendation and forwarding to the TPC for its review and discussion.
Mr. Moller inquired as to where the project and cost numbers originated. Ms. Gagne
explained the MPO created the project id numbers to coincide with the TxDOT CSJ
numbers and that TxDOT supplied the cost figures. Mr. M61ler asked what monies
were available to the MPO. Ms. Gagne explained the funds were already allocated
and that the table reflected what work had been completed and what was left to
accomplish. Mr. Barton explained how the MTP was financially constrained and that
some projects were costing more than originally budgeted, thus causing some
projects to be dropped from the list.
Motion #2:
Mr. Barton motioned to adopt the revised table for forwarding to the TPC. Mr.
Hertel seconded the motion, which carried unanimously.
a Review, Discussion &Recommendation Regarding DRAFT FY 2004 -2006
Transportation Improvement Program (TIP) & Commencement of the Public
Comment Period Trough to April 23rd, 2003 at 8:30 a.m.
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Ms. Gagne commented this agenda item was a follow up to the previous one. She
explained the TIP as a three -year short-range plan and that the MPO must
complete this requirement at the end of the second year as an overlap. The current
2002 - 2004 program would overlap the pending 2004 — 2006 TIP. She directed the
board to page 4 commenting on the progress made in previous years, specifically
IH 44 and the elevated freeway. Some of the projects had been pushed back but
with a rescheduled date. Ms. Gagne stated the main items within the document
that change every three years are the highway and transit projects. Pages 7
through 12 illustrated the detailed listing of projects recommended for listing in the
MTP. She stated all short-range plans must also be listed in the long -range plan.
She explained how to reference the projects. Mr. Barton explained the project
listings from pages 7 through 12, while the transit projects were listed on pages 14
through 16. He then gave a brief description of how the table worked and
highlighted some of the upcoming projects such as ice detection and surveillance
systems on U.S. 287 and IH -44. Mr. Barton stated that although it appears there
are $42 million worth of projects to be completed, page 12 contains three projects
not funded yet (Kell Freeway -west main lanes and the Kell Interchange). Only $9
million is currently available from local TxDOT funds.
Mr. Martin inquired as to whether the engineering was in place for the connection of
U.S. 277, Kell Blvd., and IH -44. Mr. Barton stated that it was and that ramp
configurations would be reexamined for better efficiency. He described some of the
customer complaints and hazards already brought to light concerning the new Kell
West lanes. Mr. M611er inquired about progress on Loop 11. Mr. Barton explained
there was still right -of -way that had not been acquired. He stated the money should
move with the project as it progresses in time. Mr. Barton commented other projects
might move up in priority on the list if Loop 11 did not evolve quickly enough due to
the same fiscal restraints. Mr. Jacobi asked how difficult it would be to acquire the
right -of -way. Mr. Barton stated it could be difficult but that no one had stated they
were not interested in participating. Mr. Seese commented there have been
discussions with the property owners along Loop 11 but no action had been
finalized with them as of yet. Mr. Barton stated that if he had not felt confident the
project could be completed within the three -year plan then he would not have
recommended it. Mr. Barton commented the City of Wichita Falls would be required
to participate at a minimum level of 10% when purchasing the right -of -way. He
stated, basically, the acquisition was in a state of flux. Mr. Hogan commented that
some work between the City and TxDOT had already been completed.
Discussion then turned to the transit programs. Ms. Gagne explained the needs for
the transit program over the next three years. She outlined the base costs, and
needs of the current 2003 -year and how they were projected through 2006. She
explained the requirement by TxDOT for alternatively fueled buses and the costs in
light of the need for new replacement busses. She stated transit would need a 30-
foot, heavy -duty, ten -year lifespan, alternatively fueled bus. The additional cost for
buses utilizing alternative fuel is approximately 30% more than diesel. A current
alternative fuels study would not be completed until June or July of this year, thus
making it difficult to plan for the next three years. She explained this was an
unfunded mandate passed down from the commissioners of the TTC. Mr. Leiker
explained the City was waiting for the outcome of the study and that probably some
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type of fueling facility would have to be built. Mr. Barton added the Center for
Transportation Research at the University of Texas had already completed one
study and even though "clean" diesel or emulsified diesel was not defined as
alternative fuel, the City should offer comments to area federal legislators during
reauthorization of the federal funding program to expand the definition of alternative
fuels to include "clean" diesel and emulsified diesel as a choice. Mr. Seese
commented that ULSD (Ultra -Low Sulfur Diesel) or "clean" diesel had been
approved by TxDOT but availability was scarce. Also, hybrid vehicles using diesel
and electricity would be allowed. Ms. Gagne stated the MPO self- certification
needed to be signed by the TPC and the program forwarded to Austin by May 1St in
order to be incorporated in the statewide plan.
Motion #3:
Mr. Barton moved to approve the presented TIP and forward it to the TPC for
consideration and approval. Mr. Anderson seconded the motion, which passed
unanimously.
Vll. Review, Discussion & Recommendation Regarding Public Comments
Received During 45 -day Public Comment Period for the PIP Amendments
Ms. Gagne explained the 45 -day pubic comment period went beyond the scheduled
time frame and that four advertisements were placed in the newspaper at a cost of
$674 per ad. Two people responded with comments and ideas, Mr. Moller and Mr.
Barton. Mr. Barton explained the key elements of his comments that he felt would
help clarify issues from the reader's perspective, specifically turning from a negative
to a positive the issue of mailing materials to those parties who never respond. He
suggested letting those individuals that did not want to receive materials contact the
MPO and request to be taken off the mailing list rather than dropping them off the
list after a certain period of time. This would give the receivers the benefit of the
doubt.
Mr. Moller did not discuss any of his comments but asked that his comments be
forwarded to the TPC. Ms. Gagne commented that she worked with the Times
Record News to reduce all of the comments to a manageable level in order to keep
costs down. She stated the full version of both sets of comments was published on
the City's website and on Channel 11. Mr. Seese agreed for the need to publish
future comments on the website, clean up the language and establish some kind of
consistency.
Motion #4:
Mr. Barton motioned to forward the comments, without recommendation, to the
TPC for their evaluation. Mr. Leiker seconded the motion, which passed
unanimously.
Vlll. Update Regarding Kell Freeway /Interchange Priority — Texas Transportation
Commission Hearing — February 27, 2003
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Mr. Seese outlined the letter sent to all the TTC members, the Executive Director of
TxDOT(Austin) along with the W.F. District Engineer in support of the Kell
Interchange. He gave a brief description of the TTC hearing proceedings held in
Austin on February 27tH
IX. Discussion & Overview of Progress on Local Transportation Projects —
TxDOT Staff (Quarterly Update)
Mr. Barton stated there was one additional project obligated since the last meeting,
the Sikes Lake Hike and Bike facility. Construction should start within the next
several weeks. Mr. Petter described the construction currently in progress on FM
369 (Southwest Pkwy.), FM 2380 (Kemp St. into Lake Rd.), which should finish next
December /January, Seymour Hwy. (Bus. 277) should complete by June /July, and
work on IH -44 toward Burkburnett. The Gateway project was also nearing
completion on the plans from the architect. Mr. Hogan commented that bids had
been opened for the CDBG street rehabilitation project worth $450,000 and the City
was in the process of designing $1.9 million of regular street rehabilitation due out
in about 30 days. He stated there would be information posted on the City's
website.
X. Review & Discussion — Census Data Methodology's and Environmental
Justice
Mr. Barnett explained he had written the memo to help explain the difference
between TxDOT's and MPO staffs approach to identifying ethnic and minority
populations within the City's census tracts. The intent was not to promote one
methodology over the other, but rather to eliminate any confusion on the observer's
part when comparing the two. Mr. Moller asked if both methodologies would be
employed or if the board needed to adopt one over the other. Ms. Tanner - Shelby
was concerned about using the right information. Mr. Barton commented the
information in each method could be used for presenting comparisons. He stated
that Mr. Barnett's approach would allow the user to compare on a tract -by -tract
basis to the overall city average, whereas Mr. Barton's approach would allow the
user to compare the percentage of minorities in an area based on the population in
that area. Mr. Barton stated he based his methodology — according to the same
executive directive Mr. Barnett based his methodology — on locating those readily
identifiable minority populations within the tract where high concentrations were
most likely to occur. Mr. Barton stated his methodology would help identify those
areas where projects or policy decisions would have an impact. Mr. Moller asked if
Mr. Barton's methodology would satisfy the Environmental Justice requirements.
Mr. Barton responded that he was trying to satisfy the intent of the executive
directive without the benefit of TAZ level information. He stated if he had access to
TAZ level information that his approach would be the same but that it would be left
up to the TPC to determine what is a readily identifiable population". Mr. Moller
discussed the 1990 TAZ level information and questioned the viability of modeling
minorities and ethnicities once the 2000 TAZ levels became available. Mr. Barton
commented TxDOT and MPO staff were using census tract data in lieu of TAZ data
at this time. Mr. Barnett commented he used a macro - analysis approach that
encompassed the entire city, whereas Mr. Barton utilized a microanalysis approach
that focused on individual tracts. Mr. Moller asked which approach would be used.
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The general consensus was that the TPC would have to make that decision. Mr.
Hogan inquired as to the range limit for when either approach would be
implemented. Mr. Seese commented the main challenge was identifying the areas
of interest and that Mr. Barnett and Mr. Barton used two different approaches to
reach a conclusion. Mr. Leiker asked what processes the other MPO's were using.
Mr. Barton stated there was a plethora of methodologies currently being used and
that a single set standard had not been approved by FHWA, FTA, and USDOT as
of yet. He stated it was not a matter of using a macro or micro approach, but rather
what kind of threshold would be used. The main goal would be to not discriminate
against areas where policy decisions would have an impact but instead provide for
more public involvement. Mr. Martin stated the issue would become more confusing
because of mixed races within the tracts. Mr. Barton and Ms. Gagne pointed out the
fact that the census bureau now takes this issue into account. Mr. Barnett gave an
example of comparing the census data on the macro and micro level and Mr.
Barton commented that when working with statistics there are various ways to
analyze the data presented. Discussion then centered on the different ways of
determining total population within the City and the MSA. Mr. Moller asked if this
issue would be forwarded to the TPC for guidance. Mr. Seese stated no that it was
for discussion purposes only.
Xl. Review and Comment Regarding the Transportation Policy Committee's
Approval of Revisions to the MPO By -Laws
Mr. Seese asked for any comments. Mr. Anderson stated the TNRCC acronym on
page 4 should be changed to TCEQ to reflect the change in name to Texas
Commission on Environmental Quality. Mr. Jacobi asked where the MPO was in
relation to progress on the TxDOT findings report. Mr. Seese stated that
information would be forthcoming soon. Mr. Barton commented that Austin's
reaction had been very positive.
X11. Other Business:
a. Recommend to TPC the Creation of a TAC MTP Subcommittee to Work
with MPO Staff Regarding Major Revisions to the MTP (Table 3 -4)
Mr. Seese asked for volunteers to serve on the TAC MTP subcommittee. Mr.
Barton explained the issue involved streamlining 34 funding categories down
into 12 categories and that FHWA and FTA no longer wants every single
project listed; rather they should be consolidated into a statewide CSJ or
project. Multiple pages would become multiple lines. The smaller projects
would become staff level decisions rather than Policy level decisions. He
explained there would still be a listing of the projects presented to the TPC at
least once a year.
Mr. Barton stated that for TxDOT Phillip Lujan, Carolyn Askins, Andy Petter
and he would volunteer for service on the subcommittee. Mr. Hogan and Mr.
Lyne volunteered for Wichita Falls. Mr. Moller asked if the subcommittee
meetings would be open to the public. Mr. Seese stated they would not but
that all work would be published.
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b. Other
Mr. Seese described the La Entrada El Pacifico, a transportation corridor in
Mexico, and the corridor from Presidio, Texas leading up to Wichita Falls
through Abilene. Mr. Barton further outlined the route, which starts at the
largest Pacific seaport on the Mexican coastline and progresses up to
Presidio. There is a highway and a light rail line in place on the Mexican side
that could be used for link -up. The benefits would be tremendous for Wichita
Falls if this route could be opened up. Mr. Seese stated he wanted the HNC
to become involved but that high -level politics would also need to come to
bear. Mr. Barton suggested representatives visit with the Midland /Odessa
MPO to discuss issues and a possible day -trip over to Mexico to meet with
the Mexican government as a prudent course of action prior to political
discussions.
X111. Adjourn
The meeting adjourned at 10:45 a.m.
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Darron Leiker
Interim MPO Director, TAC Chairperson
ACM, Director of Traffic, Transportation and Aviation
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