Aviation Advisory Board Minutes - 11/15/2007CITY CLERK'S OFFICE
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MINUTES
AVIATION ADVISORY BOARD
November 15, 2007
PRESENT:
Sid Gills, Chairman
Capt. Steve Smith
Jon Rivkin
Brad Altman
Martha Harvey
Jim McElvain
John Burrus
Monica Morris
Kevin Hynes
Larry Gunnell
Lisa Gunnell
Randall Stafford
J. J. Humphreys
John Key
I. CALL TO ORDER
The meeting was called to order by Sid Gills at 5:30 p.m.
II. ROLL CALL
Board Members
City Staff
Local Pilot
Civil Air Patrol
Members were asked to make sure that they had signed in for the meeting.
Visitors were introduced. Mr. Gills also recognized the promotion of board
member Smith from Lt. to Capt.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Minutes of the September 20, 2007 meeting were presented. Ms. Harvey made
a motion and Mr. McElvain seconded for approval of the minutes. All were in
favor (5 -0). (Mr. Altman had not yet arrived).
IV. REGULAR AGENDA
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1. Municipal Airport
• Taxiway "C" Rehabilitation Construction Update — Ms. Morris reported
that work had begun on the project on October 8th and was moving
along at a swift pace. The contract had placed approximately 120
panels on the apron and anticipated transitioning to Phase 2 on
November 19th. Progress is also being made on the apron work.
Coordination with the base has been good. The contractor has
presented staff a construction schedule with an anticipated completion
date of December 15, 2007 which is approximately 3 weeks ahead of
the required completion date of January 8, 2008. Ms. Morris reported
that she hoped to have a completed project to report on at the next
meeting.
• Sheppard AFB Lease Agreement Update — Ms. Morris reported that
staff did receive a new draft lease agreement with Sheppard AFB and
had recently had a meeting which included base representatives, Mr.
Burrus and City Attorney Bill Sullivan. The annual lease payment on
the new lease is proposed at $33,200 per year. Ms. Morris reported
that only a few items of significance were being addressed. Those
included 1) the stated insurance requirements, 2) a provision for
allowing continued use at the same rate should the base be closed as
a military installation until which point the properties were disposed of
and 3) protection from other military airfield or of airfield development
which would limit the full functionality of the city's investments in
Runway 17/35 or Taxiway C. Staff does not believe any of these items
will be problematic for the ability of both parties to reach an agreement.
Mr. Gills inquired as to the joint use agreement. Ms. Morris reported
that while the lease is handled by local real estate personnel, the joint
use agreement for all such airfields is handled by one gentleman in
Washington DC. We have not yet received his JUA proposal and do
not know what it includes as far as additional financial consideration.
The joint use agreement will deal with the number of operations and
other operational type issues. At some point after that document is
received and terms agreed upon by the City, the two documents will
come together and return back up the chain for final approval. The
base's internal goal is for a completion date of June 2008. City staff is
proposing an October 1, 2008 implementation date in order to align the
agreements with both parties' fiscal years.
2. Kickapoo Downtown Airport
• Hangar Area Improvement Projects Construction Update — Ms. Morris
reported that, while an official Notice of Substantial Completion has not
been signed, staff is considering the project "substantially complete" as
of the date of the paving of the entrance road. The city is beginning to
itemize a punch list of items that remain. Two final items are being
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completed this week. Tex Schmidt is working with the contractors on a
corrected September billing and then a final billing which would include
a final change order to reconcile all quantity variances or other
changes. A meeting is scheduled for next week to address these
items.
• Review /Action on Civil Air Patrol charges — At the last meeting, Mr.
Gunnell with the Civil Air Patrol (CAP) made a presentation to the
board regarding the services of the CAP and requesting the board
consider a recommendation to the city council for free hangar rental
and 24 hour access to the terminal facilities. As there was no item on
the agenda for action on this topic, it was recommended for inclusion
on this meeting's agenda for consideration after further research. Ms.
Morris provided board members with an interoffice memorandum
describing the staffs recommendation on this topic. The
recommendation was for no change in the current discounted
arrangement which was the decision made the previous 2 times this
item has been addressed in the past 2 years. Ms. Morris also reported
that 2 board members not in attendance had communicated with her
regarding this topic. Mr. Armstrong reported that he did not believe
they should be given free hangar space in a private hangar but would
consider free or discounted space in a community hangar. Ms. Morris
also read an email from board member Mr. Harrelson who agreed that
the need for the CAP is not in question but believed a summary of
income and expenses of the CAP should be provided to city staff for
review after which point an agreement could be reached. Mr. Gills had
2 comments — 1) that as a USAF entity, why are they not at SAFB and
2) that this is an internal management decision and not a decision for
the Advisory Board. Mr. Altman, Mr. McElvain and Ms. Harvey all
inquired as to where the $17,000 of low level route revenue was spent
and what other sources of income the CAP had. Mr. Stafford reported
that a senior member had received some corporate donations which
had historically covered some of the hangar rent but was apparently no
longer the case. Mr. Key reported that he believed it was a "pass the
hat deal" out of members pockets to cover the hangar rental. He also
reported that they have approximately 21 members of which only 8 are
pilots and only 4 of those fly regularly. Mr. Burrus reported that he
could speak with Mr. Leiker regarding capping the balance due until
this item could be resolved. He also reported that the FAA does have
a provision to allow for free or discounted hangar rental under similar
provisions as what allowed for the museum hangar. Mr. Burrus said
he could take the recommendation to the manager for
recommendation of free hangar rent. However, any forgiveness of the
balance due since this was for services already provided could only be
done by council. Mr. McElvain commented that another important
consideration of the CAP is the youth component in aviation. After
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future discussion, Ms Harvey made a motion, seconded by Mr. Altman,
to make a recommendation to city council for free hangar rental in the
community hangar, removal of the current .40 per gallon fuel discount
and that the decision of the past due balances be left to council.
Motion passed 5 -0. (Capt. Smith had excused himself from the
meeting for a prior commitment). Mr. Burrus told the CAP that they
should be prepared to provide council with financial information if they
will ask. Mr. Burrus also recommended that this arrangement, if
approved, begin at the first of the year.
3. Other Aviation Items — Nothing to report.
VI. ITEMS OF CONCERN TO BOARD MEMBERS — There were none.
VII. ADJOURN
The meeting was adjourned at 6:30 p.m.
ATTEST:
Monica J. rris, Airports Administrator
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