Civil Service Commission Minutes - 04/27/2007MINUTES OF THE FIREFIGHTERS' AND POLICE OFFICERS'
CIVIL SERVICE COMMISSION
Present:
Bob Monaghan, Chairman
Dr. Ernest Dover
Dr. Floyd Thornton
April 27, 2007
§ Commission Members
Earl Foster, Fire Chief §
Bill Weske, Assistant Fire Chief §
David Winney, Human Resources Director §
Julia Vasquez, First Assistant City Attorney §
Linda Merrill, Recording Secretary §
Matthew Childs §
Brent Womack §
Bruce Deeb §
Russell Sheppard §
Scott Freeland §
James Gowen §
Craig Berend §
1. Call to Order
City Staff
Firefighters, WFFD
Chairman Monaghan called the meeting to order at 2:01 p.m.
2. Approval of Minutes (March 20, 2007)
Commissioner Thornton moved, seconded by Commissioner Dover, that the
minutes of the meeting of March 20, 2007, be approved. The motion carried.
3. Consider Appeal by Firefighters James Gowen and Russell D.
Sheppard on the interpretation of Local Civil Service Rules and Section
143.033(a) and (b) of the TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE regarding seniority
points.
David Winney noted that Scott Freeland had filed an appeal, as well.
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Chairman Monaghan observed that these appeals pertain to how seniority points
are applied, and invited the appellants to present their issue.
Russell Sheppard addressed the Commission. He noted that he was hired by the
City on October 16, 1996. The City shows his years of service begin on the date he
graduated from the Academy (March 19, 1997). But the State recognizes October 16,
1996 as beginning his years of service. Thus, his full 10 years of service occurred in
October 2006. He took a promotional examination in February 2007, four months after
he reached his 10 years. However, on the eligibility list, he received only 9 years of
seniority points.' If the City would recognize his date of hire, rather than the date he
earned certification as a firefighter, he would receive an extra seniority point. With that
extra point, he would move up two spots, as would Mr. Freeland. Others would also
benefit.
In addition, Mr. Sheppard relayed, a previous Civil Service Commission ruled that
seniority points should be based upon date of hire. The Civil Service Director at that
time was Jan Stricklin. He asked that this rule continue to be followed, as it has been on
all previous lists during his employment.
Further, the driver test given in October 2005 granted seniority points based
upon date of hire. This examination was given five months after the May 2005 revision
of the Local Rules. He asked that the Commission continue with the precedent, and
award seniority points based upon the date of hire, as opposed to the date of
certification. Chairman Monaghan asked Mr. Sheppard if he had the ruling from the
previous Commission. Neither Mr. Sheppard nor Mr. Winney has found this ruling, but
Mr. Sheppard believes it occurred six to seven years ago. Mr. Winney noted the Local
Rules were amended in May 2005, but Mr. Sheppard reiterated that the October 2005
test went by the hire date.
Commissioner Thornton asked whether the Commission has a duty to follow
previous Commission rulings or the current rules. Ms. Vasquez replied that it is
important to be consistent. However, the Chapter 143 definition of firefighter was
changed in 2005.2 The change was made to include more positions in the definition.
' §143.033 Promotional Examination Grades
(b) .... Each fire fighter is entitled to receive one point for each year of seniority in that department,
with a maximum of 10 points.
2 (4) "Fire fighter" means a member of a fire department who was appointed in substantial compliance
with this chapter or who is entitled to civil service status under Section 143.005 or 143.084. The term:
(A) applies only to an employee of a fire department whose position requires substantial knowledge of
fire fighting and who has met the requirements for certification by the Texas Commission on Fire
Protection under Chapter 419, Government Code, including an employee who performs: (i) fire
suppression; (ii) fire prevention; (iii) fire training; (iv) fire safety education; (v) fire maintenance;
(vi) fire communications; (vii) fire medical emergency technology; (viii) fire photography; (ix) fire
administration; or (x) fire arson investigation; and (B) does not apply to a secretary, clerk, budget
analyst, custodial engineer, or other administrative employee.
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The definition now makes clear that a firefighter is one who is either certified or eligible
to be certified. A firefighter trainee going through the Academy is not certified, nor
eligible to be certified.
Mr. Sheppard countered that Section 143.033, Promotional Examination Grades,
still stands, and emphasized that this section includes the following language: "Each fire
fighter is entitled to receive one point for each year of seniority in that department, with
a maximum of 10 points." Ms. Vasquez agreed that Section 143.033 did not change, but
the key is to refer to the definition of firefighter. She added that the Local Rules are
subservient to the LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE; if the two conflict, the LOCAL GOVERNMENT
CODE controls.
Mr. Freeland opined that, even with the change of the definition of firefighter to
include certification, it also states that firefighters get a point for each year of seniority.
He believes seniority is the key. The seniority list has always been figured from the date
of hire. Seniority in the rank as a firefighter would go from the date of graduation. But
seniority in the department itself goes back to the date of hire. He worked for the
department before he was a certified firefighter.
Mr. Winney remarked that the key to this issue is whether, when hired by the City
as a trainee, that individual is able to perform the functions of a firefighter as stated in
that definition. Or, does that individual actually become a firefighter only when he or she
has completed training and is put into a role by the Chief to perform actual firefighting
duties.
Mr. Sheppard noted the appellants' viewpoint is that they have seniority on time
of service, regardless of the definition of firefighter. Chapter 143 says a firefighter and
firefighter recruit are synonymous. The trainees do the same thing that firefighters do.
He added that James Gowen was a certified firefighter at the time he was hired by the
City. Ms. Vasquez noted that is a different situation. She referenced litigation involving
litigants who were certified in EMS training. The Court ruled they were considered
certified or eligible to be certified.
Mr. Sheppard said the playing field is not level for everyone else in the class. He
noted that, although Mr. Gowen would be deemed to have seniority over him (due to his
certification); he was in fact hired three days after Mr. Sheppard.
Ms. Vasquez expressed her understanding, but noted that the revised definition
of firefighter has to be consistently applied throughout the Code. Chapter 143 does not
contemplate any departmental seniority. The police and fire departments have seniority
lists that pertain to vacation, assignments, etc., but that is an internal operation. This
internal list would typically mirror an eligibility list for seniority, but sometimes it will be
different. Commissioner Dover asked if she shared that opinion with Mr. Winney. She
replied that she did share with him that it is certainly her opinion that the definition of
firefighter should be consistent with how seniority points are applied.
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Mr. Freeland asked if time counted toward seniority includes the six months of
probation prior to certification. Mr. Winney noted that would count toward seniority as an
employee, but not as a firefighter. Mr. Freeland countered that seniority is not a
tiebreaker; it is awarded above the examinee's raw score. He added that the definition
of firefighter is not at issue, but rather, the definition of seniority. Seniority ought to start
at the date of hire.
Chairman Monaghan asked Chief Foster if he had anything to add to the
discussion. Chief Foster noted that he generally tries to stay out of appeals, but he did
have some observations. He noted that Mr. Gowen was certified as a firefighter when
he joined the department. Messrs. Sheppard and Freeland were firefighter trainees, a
position established by the City Council. There are problems with the Local Rules. One
section notes that the length of service for determining the eligibility for taking a
promotional exam shall include the probationary period in the fire department. Yet a
subsequent section specifically requires firefighter certification. Chairman Monaghan
noted that the Commission ought to be consistent in its ruling, but he could see how
either side can be argued.
Ms. Vasquez noted Chapter 143 is always revised incrementally, and there are
inconsistent provisions between police and fire.
Chief Foster asked when firefighters are actually deemed certified; is it when the
Texas Commission on Fire Protection in Austin puts it into the computer, or when they
graduate from the Academy? Ms. Vasquez stated the big question is when are they
eligible for certification.
Commissioner Dover asked for clarification concerning a San Antonio case that
ruled a probationary firefighter is not eligible for civil service status. Ms. Vasquez replied
that those probationary firefighters do not get the due process and other benefits that go
along with civil service until they complete their probationary period. She added that
there are some seniority provisions that include the probationary period, one being the
eligibility to test. If someone is considered eligible to take a promotional test,
probationary time is considered part of the period of seniority. But those employees are
not entitled to civil service protection until they finish their probation.
Mr. Winney opined that it would seem to him that the critical time of certification
for a firefighter is when the Fire Chief determines that that individual can perform as a
firefighter, and not as a trainee. Mr. Sheppard noted that he went to a church fire during
his time in the Academy, and performed firefighter duties. Mr. Gowen added that
trainees will go to a structure fire and perform overhaul techniques or whatever else
needs to be done, in addition to fire suppression.
Chairman Monaghan addressed Mr. Gowen, stating that there is no argument
that he was certified when he entered the Academy. The other appellants agree their
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situation is different. He questioned whether Mr. Gowen would not have an issue with
seniority points being granted from the date of hire, since he had certification at that
date that the other appellants did not. Mr. Gowen stated that in a way he would, but
mostly not. He believes the points need to be given correctly. The trainees do
everything a firefighter does, with the exception that they are not assigned to a shift.
Rather, the trainees go to school, Monday through Friday, 8:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. But
the trainees' duties are those of a firefighter, from day one.
Commissioner Dover noted the issue is basically seniority points. Chairman
Monaghan added that the issue further addresses when the seniority points are
assessed. Mr. Gowen noted that six or seven certified firefighters were hired after him.
This issue will also affect them.
Mr. Winney noted that Chapter 143 applies only to a position that meets the
requirements for certification. Mr. Sheppard argued that precedent has been set, with
every test he's taken since he's been employed by the Department, up to this last test.
Mr. Gowen noted that the last lieutenant's examination went by the date of hire, as well.
He added that he believes it was over 10 years ago that the Civil Service Commission
established the date of hire as being relative to seniority points.
Mr. Sheppard stated there are people above him on the driver list who will be
promoted, as there are vacancies. A tiebreaker situation goes by an applicant's present
rank in service, and those individuals will have seniority over him.
Commissioner Dover asked if the appellants are asking the Commission to clean
up the language at the local level. Mr. Sheppard noted he is looking for the same thing
as Chief Foster; it has consistently been the date of hire. Chairman Monaghan noted
that if the ruling from the Commission is that seniority starts from the date of hire, the
local rules will need to be amended.
Ms. Vasquez agreed, adding that this action could not occur today. She added a
cautionary note to the discussion: what happens when someone appeals to the
Commission to have seniority begin with certification? She noted the GOVERNMENT
CODE, Chapter 419, most likely has a provision that requires an individual to
successfully complete a fire training academy or program before being considered
eligible for certification.
Commissioner Thornton asked if the Commission is supposed to go by
precedent or the new rules. Ms. Vasquez noted that the Local Rules should never
conflict with Chapter 143. That Chapter will always supersede the Local Rules, even if
the Chapter contains an error. There is language in the Local Rules that acknowledges
this hierarchy. If the Commission determines that the Local Rules are in conflict with
Chapter 143, it can grant the appeals without changing the Local Rules first.
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Commissioner Thornton stated that he believes an attorney could argue that the
"or" found after the list of activities Section 143.003(a) could be interpreted to mean
someone who simply performs fire suppression. Ms. Vasquez noted the reason that
"including" was used was to ensure that it did not mean only fire suppression.
Chairman Monaghan read a portion of the Introduction to the Local Civil Service
Rules into the record:
These Rules are promulgated in compliance with Chapter 143 of the Local
Government Code, which is incorporated herein for all purposes. It is
intended that these Rules shall complement said statute and not conflict
with the statute in any manner. No set of rules can be so precise as to
provide for every employment situation; therefore, it is intended that the
Civil Service Commission administer these Rules in the best interest of the
Fire and Police Departments.
He stated that he is not sure the Local Rules are in conflict with Chapter 143,
unless he is told otherwise by legal counsel. Ms. Vasquez noted that she did not believe
it was in conflict.
Chairman Monaghan continued, stating that even though the Local Rules were
amended in 2005, it appears actions since that time have been inconsistent with that
change. Ms. Vasquez asked if an FEO test had been given since the Local Rules were
revised. Mr. Sheppard replied that an FEO test was given in September 2005, and the
hire date was used.
Chief Foster noted that, if a fixed date in time is not established, and the
Department continues to hire and run certified and non - certified employees through the
same Academy, there will be confusion. Right or wrong, there needs to be consistency.
The only date he can find that is consistent is the date of hire. Mr. Winney remarked that
a date needs to be set for administrative purposes. Mr. Sheppard noted the hire date
would be the easier date to choose. Mr. Winney replied that he is not as concerned
about ease as he is about accuracy and doing the right thing. He believes those who
are already certified should get consideration for that experience.
Ms. Vasquez agrees that the hire date would be the best way to administer this
issue. But her concern is that someone who is already certified would appeal that
decision. In her opinion, the law is on the side of the date of certification. Mr. Sheppard
noted there has not been such a challenge to date. There will always be someone
unhappy with the decisions made by the Commission. Ms. Vasquez asked if the
appellants were asking that the Commission rule in their favor, wait to see if someone
who is certified files an appeal, and make a 1800 change in their decision. Mr. Sheppard
wished that this was not the case, but this is how society is.
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Mr. Freeland gave the example of two individuals being hired on the same day.
One is already certified, the other is not. If seniority is given to the certified firefighter,
then that individual is getting points for the time he has been a certified firefighter for
another town. Mr. Vasquez disagreed, adding that the State basically drafted language
that does not recognize a firefighter until that person is certified or eligible to be certified.
Mr. Freeland asserted that the issue does not have anything to do with the definition of
firefighter, but rather, the definition of seniority. He was employed at the same time as
Mr. Gowen. Yet Mr. Gowen is eligible for more seniority points because he was already
a firefighter.
Ms. Vasquez noted the whole origin of allowing 10 points for seniority comes
from the LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE. Chapter 143 is the statute that originates this right.
Unfortunately, this statute does not recognize individuals until they are firefighters. That
requires a review of the definition of firefighter. The whole reason 10 points is given is
because Chapter 143 says those points are awarded, and those points are awarded to
firefighters.
Mr. Sheppard noted that all they are asking for is a decision on either the hire
date or certification date for purposes of awarding seniority points.
Ms. Vasquez stated that she felt obliged to warn the Commission that someone
who is certified can appeal to the Commission for the date of certification to be used for
the awarding of seniority points, rather than the date of hire. The Commission would
then be in a position to have to amend any decision they would make in favor of the
date of hire. This is a cautionary tale in the event the Commission decides to grant
grievances or appeals based on what may seem to be the fairest action, and not on the
law.
Bruce Deeb interjected that he is an observer who will be affected by the
Commission's decision. It would be fine with him that his seniority date begins with his
date of hire. But he points out that he is not covered under civil service until he takes the
civil service test. Is rank established at the time of the taking of the civil service test? In
a tiebreaker situation, the grade of the civil service test comes into play.
Ms. Vasquez stated that case law that interprets Chapter 143 reveals that the
probationary period counts for seniority for certain purposes. But there is no protection
of civil service. Those are two separate things. It seems logical to go by the hire date.
The problem is that the firefighter definition was amended in the last legislative session.
Chairman Monaghan stated that he appreciates there are obvious
inconsistencies. There is not only this issue with the appellants, but potentially an issue
with needing to amend the Local Rules. However, someone else could still appeal if the
Commission voted in favor of the appellants. Ms. Vasquez added that this change will
not only affect this list, but the entire seniority list in the fire department.
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Ms. Vasquez opined that the issue is whether the Local Rules are inconsistent
with Chapter 143. The Local Rules are subservient to Chapter 143. She is of the opinion
that it is not in conflict to the effect that the Local Rules are void. Rather, she believes it
is consistent with how firefighter is defined in Chapter 143. The unfortunate issue is that
tests were administered after that date, using the hire date for seniority, which may or
may not have made a difference. But she does not think it is prudent to keep doing
something that is inconsistent with the law simply because that is the way it has always
been done. She thinks it was done that way prior to 2005 because there was nothing
that defined seniority within a department. That concept did not exist; it was an internal
operation created by the police and fire departments to administer their internal
processes, such as vacations and assignments. Civil Service does not recognize the
departmental seniority list.
Chairman Monaghan stated the issue needs to come to a vote. Ms. Vasquez
noted that Mr. Freeland's appeal was not posted on the agenda, as he was not
identified at the time of posting.
Mr. Sheppard noted that if the Commission goes by the certification date,
Mr. Gowen has seniority over him by over five months. But if the Commission goes by
the date of hire, they are on a level playing field. This action would do the same thing for
each class behind them and before them that included both certified and non - certified
firefighters.
Chairman Monaghan stated his inclination is to defer a decision on the appeals,
and request a formal opinion from the City Attorney's office in terms of options available
to the Commission. He requests that this opinion be delivered as rapidly as possible,
and another meeting of the Commission be scheduled, in accordance with posting
requirements, so that this matter can be resolved.
Commissioner Thornton observed that the Commission's purpose is to enforce
rules and to act for the good of the fire and police departments.
Ms. Vasquez explained that this hearing may be continued. Typically, this
continuance can only be for one day with the same posting. The meeting will thus have
to be reposted. This item can be tabled.
Chairman Monaghan then moved that the three appeals be tabled and that the
Civil Service Commission request a formal opinion from the City Attorney as to the
options available to the Commission; further, this meeting should be reconvened as
soon as possible, taking into consideration the requirements for posting. Commissioner
Thornton seconded the motion. The motion carried unanimously.
Ms. Vasquez confirmed that the meeting will be reconvened at a later date, and
the posting will include all three appeals.
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Chairman Monaghan thanked the appellants for their time, and congratulated
them on the manner in which they pled their case. He assured them the Commission
will make a decision as rapidly as possible.
Mr. Winney suggested the Commission meet again in 10 days, or a week from
the following Monday. Mr. Sheppard informed the Commission that a captain's test will
be given on May 8. The examinees will then have five days in the appeal process. That
test will reveal the next four drivers.
Mr. Deeb addressed the Commission. He believes that the fair thing to do is to
decide on the date of hire, even though that would hurt him personally. He has no
problem with the appellants getting an extra point.
4. Consider proposed entrance examination changes for firefighter
trainees.
Chief Foster noted that in 2004, the physical agility test was revalidated at the
drill field. Those in the department age 18 -35 were used for this testing. They were put
through identical testing, and their test times were recorded. An average time of 6
minutes, 59 seconds was obtained. Ms. Stricklin stated that some time would be added
to that for training. When the Local Rules were amended, an incorrect time of 7:46 was
used. It was subsequently discovered that 7:46 was the slowest time from those
firefighters tested. This time results in about 80% of people passing the test. This does
not eliminate a large enough field, and is not a good standard. Plus, it's not the average.
He proposes taking the 6:59 and adding 30 seconds to it for training time. The test is
based on the duties that are performed on the job. The firefighters know the techniques,
so they can perform the drills more quickly than those who are training. Had this number
been used on the two classes since the adoption of the revised rules, the 7:29 would
have resulted in a 55% passing rate, which is a good number. He would like this revised
prior to the next Academy, scheduled for June 16.
Ms. Vasquez noted this change can be accomplished. Rule changes do have to
be posted for seven days in the stations. After that period, the rule change becomes
effective. The drafting of the rule change can be accomplished quickly, and the
proposed change can be presented to the Commission at its next meeting.
Mr. Winney suggested the time be changed to 7:30, rather than 7:29, so that it is
easy to remember. Chief Foster agreed.
Chairman Monaghan expressed surprise that 16 seconds could make such a
difference in the passing scores. Chief Foster replied that a high percentage of
applicants score between 7:30 and 7:46. Chairman Monaghan asked how the Chief
would handle complaints of not enough staffing (due to higher standards of testing).
Chief Foster replied that there has to be an element of physical agility to be a firefighter.
When only 20% of the field is eliminated, it does not seem like physical agility matters
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very much. He wants the applicants to be in good shape. The test is simply a pass -fail,
rather than a specific grade. Therefore, he would like the time requirement to mean
something.
Chairman Monaghan asked for confirmation that this could not be voted on
today. Ms. Vasquez confirmed, noting this is not an action item. The rule change will
need to be written. She added that the police department will come before the
Commission with a similar request. Mr. Winney added that they wish to take the 32 sit-
ups in one minute requirement to 28. Ms. Vasquez noted the police department was
having the opposite problem of the fire department; too many applicants were being
eliminated due to this requirement.
Mr. Winney noted a change was needed to Section 143.023, Eligibility for
Beginning Position. Subsection (4), Cause for rejection of applicants for firefighter
classification, states that applicants who have violations exceeding four events (moving
violations or preventable accidents) within the past three years may be rejected. The
City's Employee Handbook makes applicants or employees ineligible for certain
positions if they have four or more violations within the past three years. Police and Fire
employees thus get more consideration. Chairman Monaghan asked that this proposed
change be added to the agenda of the next meeting, as well.
Chief Foster then addressed another issue with the Local Rules. There are
several passages in the Rules which reference the B -Pad testing process. The Fire
Department does not currently use a B -Pad. He is hesitant to remove references to the
B -Pad completely, as he would like to see it used again in the future. However, he is
questioned about the fact that the B -Pad is mentioned in the Rules but never used. He
suggested that, to clarify the Rules, all references to the B -Pad should be removed, or
include the phrase "if applicable," or some similar wording, to allow for the reference to
remain. Ms. Vasquez suggested the phrase "if required." Chairman Monaghan
suggested language such as, "We reserve the right to do the following... ". Ms. Vasquez
noted appropriate language would be drafted for consideration by the Commission.
5. Report from Fire Chief.
Chief Foster noted that an Academy is beginning this coming Monday for five
certified firefighters. They will be going through an eight -week refresher course. On
June 16, a written examination and physical agility test will be given. This is open to
anyone, and those successful will enter a full - fledged six month Academy scheduled to
begin on August 27. There will probably be 12 in the Academy, but that number will
depend on the number of vacancies.
Chairman Monaghan asked where the certified firefighters are coming from.
Chief Foster replied that two of them were Vernon College students from the last
academy; one was an instructor with the United States Air Force Fire Academy; one is
from Yoakum, Texas, and the other from Saint Jo, Texas.
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6. Consider proposed updates to the Local Civil Service Rules.
Chief Foster addressed the need to amend Section 143.024(2).3 This section has
the applicant receiving a conditional offer of employment prior to the interview with the
Fire Chief. The job cannot be offered until the applicant has met with the Chief. Ms.
Vasquez noted that the medical and psychological examinations cannot proceed prior to
the conditional offer of employment. Mr. Winney interjected the proposed language
revision includes a conditional offer of employment pending the Chief's interview and
the medical and psychological examination. Ms. Vasquez agreed to placing the medical
and psychological examination last. Chief Foster added there is nothing in the list that
requires the applicant to pass a written examination, which needs to be included.
Ms. Vasquez reminded Chief Foster to state in his interviews that the applicant is
still subject to passing the medical and psychological testing. Chief Foster stated that he
does this routinely.
7. Adjourn.
Commissioner Dover moved, seconded by Commissioner Thornton, that the
meeting be adjourned. The motion carried, and the meeting adjourned at 3:33 p.m.
3 (2) Order of Entry Level Application and Examination Process for Fire Applicants. —All
applicants for entry-level positions in the Fire Department shall complete the following screenings
and examinations:
1) submit written application and completed background packet
2) pass physical ability test —with standards determined by the Civil Service Commission. An
applicant may retake the physical ability test without any waiting period, but may retake the
physical ability test only twice in one day. If the applicant does not pass after two tries,
he /she must then wait until the next test date to retake the physical ability test.
3) pass B -Pad screening — applicant may take B -Pad twice before being disqualified for a period
of six months.
4) pass background investigation
5) be approved by legal review
6) receive conditional offer of employment
7) pass medical and psychological examinations
8) pass Chiefs interview
Items number 7 and 8 are interchangeable as to the order in which they may be scheduled.